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re: Gallup:for first time ever,democrats have more favorable view of socialism than capitalism
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:14 am to Ag Zwin
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:14 am to Ag Zwin
quote:They are obedient parrots they listen to the democrats and MSM and think progressive socialism to marxism really then communism is cool.
Yet, in 2016, the poll said 58% viewed socialism positively while only 56% viewed capitalism positively.
What am I missing?
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:17 am to BigAppleBucky
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Infant mortality rate 5.8, or 55th in the world, behind even Serbia, Latvia, and Hungry.
How do Serbia, Latvia and Hungary measure infant mortality?
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 10:17 am
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:18 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Democrats are like watermelons.
Green on the outside
Red on the inside.
Green on the outside
Red on the inside.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:20 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
If you are lazy or stupid, socialism is probably a better system for you.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:24 am to BigAppleBucky
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The bottom line is we spend more than anyone and just about every advanced country does a better job than our antiquated for profit system.
Just wondering. Can you tell the class where the vast majority of medical innovation, new drugs, new procedures, etc come from?
Is it america? Or countries that provide “free healthcare”
Also, asking for a friend. Can you explain the difference in population, not just size, but make up as well between America and these other countries with “free healthcare”
Oh, and also. Can you also look maybe at the transportation mode of those countries compared to the US.
You do know that Europeans walk a lot more to get around right? I mean, a vast majority of their cities were planned before the invention of automobiles. They’re quite compact in comparison to the United States.
Just spitballing here.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 10:25 am
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:26 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Thete will be a split in the democratic party.
It’s unavoidable at this point.
It’s unavoidable at this point.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:31 am to BigAppleBucky
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To summarize, we pay more and get less.
Untrue. We count Medicare as a Healthcare expense while other countries do not. In most countries babies born before 25 weeks and die aren't added in the infant mortality rates but in the USA they are because or standard of care is just better.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:31 am to BigAppleBucky
quote:
We rank 43rd in the world in longevity (80 years), just below the Turk Islands.
It is the shitty food choices and lack of exercise causing obesity and a number of other medical conditions that is hurting longevity...
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:34 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Considering the communists goals of overtaking education in the US is complete, why is anyone surprised by these findings?
it’s obvious we have utterly failed at educating young people on the virtues of free markets
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:37 am to wickowick
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It is the shitty food choices and lack of exercise causing obesity and a number of other medical conditions that is hurting longevity...
Also how many other countries subsidize their poorest people and allow them to eat 600 dollars worth of processed garbage and oh pick up the medical bills. It's why our longevity and outcomes aren't the best and why we spend so much. Our problem isn't our for profit insurance. Our problem is the socialized aspects of our society.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:37 am to redfishfan
quote:That's BS.
Untrue. We count Medicare as a Healthcare expense while other countries do not.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:37 am to wickowick
quote:
It is the shitty food choices and lack of exercise causing obesity and a number of other medical conditions that is hurting longevity...
Actually, gun deaths and car accidents drive up our mortality pretty significantly.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:38 am to BigAppleBucky
quote:
That's BS.
You’re right. That is BS. Now would you like to address the bullshite in your post in this thread or are you going to pretend it’s true?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:39 am to the808bass
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Actually, gun deaths and car accidents drive up our mortality pretty significantly.
Also true. Chicago alone would dwarf most countries in gun deaths. IF only Chicago had strict gun laws.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:39 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Considering our capitalism has turned into Fascism, who could blame someone for turning to socialism as a viable option?
Gallup:for first time ever,democrats have more favorable view of socialism than capitalism
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:39 am to BigAppleBucky
quote:
BigAppleBucky
So gonna respond to my post?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:40 am to BigAppleBucky
quote:
Healthcare in the USA:
- We rank 43rd in the world in longevity (80 years), just below the Turk Islands.
- Maternal death rate is at 14 per thousand, or 46th in the world. Worse than Saudi Arabia at 12.
- Infant mortality rate 5.8, or 55th in the world, behind even Serbia, Latvia, and Hungry.
In terms of health expenditures, the USA is highest in the world at 17.1% of GDP. Ignoring some Pacific Island groups, Sweden has the second highest expense at 11.9% of GDP.
These figures are all from the CIA factbook. UN figures shed an even worse light on the USA.
The bottom line is we spend more than anyone and just about every advanced country does a better job than our antiquated for profit system.
To summarize, we pay more and get less.
CIA World Factbook
Basically all of those numbers are within a certain MoE. Within that margin of error, inputs probably matter a lot more than expenditures, though it's obviously difficult for healthcare economists to ascertain exactly what the weight of each input factor is. ETA: Not to mention (as mentioned above) that for some of those statistics, how each piece is measured can vary considerably across countries.
Tell me which is the better healthcare system: that which raises life expectancy from 76 to 80 or that which raises life expectancy from 81 to 83?
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 10:42 am
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:41 am to BigAppleBucky
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We rank 43rd in the world in longevity (80 years), just below the Turk Islands.
Quality of healthcare has nothing to do with this.
quote:
Maternal death rate is at 14 per thousand, or 46th in the world. Worse than Saudi Arabia at 12.
See above.
quote:
Infant mortality rate 5.8, or 55th in the world, behind even Serbia, Latvia, and Hungry.
See above.
quote:
In terms of health expenditures, the USA is highest in the world at 17.1% of GDP. Ignoring some Pacific Island groups, Sweden has the second highest expense at 11.9% of GDP.
Did you have a point with this?
quote:
The bottom line is we spend more than anyone and just about every advanced country does a better job than our antiquated for profit system.
No they don't.
quote:
To summarize, we pay more and get less.
No we don't.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 10:43 am
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:44 am to Centinel
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No they don't.
Exactly. We have the most innovative and best healthcare in the world. Our country is only held down in statistics by generations of people that produce nothing yet consume more than most all while the Democrats want to give them more to consume. It's sickening.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:46 am to redfishfan
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We have the most innovative and best healthcare in the world.
I find it odd how he won’t tell us where the vast majority of medical innovation comes from.
It’s almost like socialist ideals destroy forward progress and innovation.
Weird how that works.
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