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re: Gallup, June 2021 polling: majority of republicans now support gay marriage.

Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by AU66
Northport Al
Member since Sep 2006
3312 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:54 pm to
So up until the forever of history until 97 almost everyone thought/ knew it was wrong. Maybe the greatest PR campaign the world has ever known. I think most of you in here need to realize how easily you have been manipulated.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 1:58 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115483 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:54 pm to
bullshite poll is bullshite.
Posted by 2810eph
Mississippi
Member since Jun 2020
223 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:57 pm to
For some (many?) of us marriage is simply a union between one man and one woman. It is as straightforward as that. It is impossible to “recognize” something that does not exist.
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
3666 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:00 pm to
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Without mentioning religion, why?


Ok. You can reply to my response without using this website.

For several reasons, not just religious ones.

First of all, I believe the nuclear family (and, despite the bullshite that gets posted on the internet, a nuclear family is a family with children and two married parents of the opposite sex all living together) is the hope for society- and studies prove it. The nuclear family is the best indicator of a healthy society. As the nuclear family goes, so goes society. As the destruction of the nuclear family increases, so does poverty, crime, and other societal factors.

These are facts.

There is a reason why the destruction of the nuclear family is a Marxist goal for the US and has been for decades. BLM wasn’t the first movement with that as a goal.

Children need both a mother and father IN the home. The absence of one- especially the father- leads, again, to crime, poverty, and other societal and personal ills.

Domestic abuse in homosexual relationships is a problem at almost twice the ratio of heterosexual relationships.

Children raised by homosexual couples are almost 5 times as likely to be abused- both sexually and physically.

I’m aware that you’re going to run to Google to find anything you can to refute those facts. Sadly, your effort won’t be difficult. Not only do people with agendas and interest groups publish studies which make their way to articles in HuffPost and Salon that conveniently agree with their position in absolute totality, but Google and others have hidden the results of the mountainous evidence that opposes that agenda or viewpoint.

Homosexuality was considered a mental illness and rightly so by mental health professionals... until they were bullied into changing their stance by special interest groups.

It remains a mental illness.

The facts I listed above remain facts. Downvote away. Run to Google so your overlords can tell you how to think and what to say or believe. Scoff and insult and ridicule and- at the very height of irony and hypocrisy- call others bigots because of their religious beliefs that don’t fit your worldview.

At the end of the day, none of that will have changed the facts I listed. And it was by no means an exhaustive list.

I’ve seen the evidence. First hand. I’ve met the people. I know the sociologists.




Also, I generally dislike the term “equality” thrown about, as if homosexuals pretending to be married, suddenly made them equal after having not been. It’s a misnomer and a purposeful deception.

Homosexuals have always had the right to participate in marriage if they so chose. They didn’t want equality because they already had equality.

They wanted a change in the law and definition of what marriage is... so as to further destroy the nuclear family.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 4:11 pm
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:04 pm to
Fake News

Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:04 pm to
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I oppose all government sanctioned marriages.


Same here, we have way too much government in marriage.

However I want to be in the courtroom to watch an indecisive family court judge try to decide who gets custody between two dads. The family court system fricking sucks in this country.
Posted by Tyger32
Member since Dec 2015
598 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:07 pm to
Well said.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82434 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:13 pm to
I oppose the use of the word marriage for same sex domestic partnerships that are created by the state rather than traditional religious practice.
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
8048 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:15 pm to
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The Bible is not relevant to the legality of same sex marriages.

And LOL at thinking that marriage is a purely biblical concept



Governments attempting to define what is legal or illegal in regard to marriage is farcical in the sense that they have no jurisdiction over a Sovereign creator who made man in His image, and therefore has the authority to define things like marriage, sexuality, gender, etc. What is truly "LOL" worthy is mankind believing itself to be wiser and more knowledgeable than a Holy God and trying to recreate and redefine things such as marriage, gender, sexuality, etc. But of course if you don't believe that this one true living God exists, none of this should matter to you.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 2:16 pm
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
28938 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:16 pm to
i dont give a shite who marries who but your not "special" or "brave" for being gay, just stfu and live your gay life like the rest of us
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35956 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:19 pm to
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It's not that I support it, I just don't give a shite.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:19 pm to
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Just out of curiosity....how many posters on here still oppose same sex marriages being recognized?


I do. Gay "marriage" will never be equal to Biblical marriage. Can't be. Just doesn't work that way.

Ohhhh and marriage isn't solely about love, a part of it yes, but not the main part of it. Marriage is to procreate...plain and simple. That's why at some point the govt will have to create a new level of it to promote Biblical marriage, and mother/father homes. Something the gays can't provide. This is something Putin realized was important, and why he such a hard liner on preventing the promotion of the normalization of homosexuality. No one would think he cares about what gays do in private, but he does care about his govts "widget"....well established humans. Which is something the gays can never provide.

This isn't even a religious thing, so get mad at God or mother nature, whichever you believe I don't care, not me.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:20 pm to
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Governments attempting to define what is legal or illegal in regard to marriage is farcical in the sense that they have no jurisdiction over a Sovereign creator who made man in His image, and therefore has the authority to define things like marriage, sexuality, gender, etc. What is truly "LOL" worthy is mankind believing itself to be wiser and more knowledgeable than a Holy God and trying to recreate and redefine things such as marriage, gender, sexuality, etc. But of course if you don't believe that this one true living God exists, none of this should matter to you.



My beliefs, your beliefs, or any religious beliefs of anyone on earth are not relevant to the legal definition of marriage. Nothing relating to God matters in this context either, or religious marriage, or the Bible, or a sovereign creator, or any of it.

It is truly incredible that the mere usage of the word 'marriage' matters so much to some. It is a word, and your religion does not have a monopoly on it. 'Marriage' is NOT an inherently Biblical or even religious concept.

This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Atttaboy
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2014
353 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:22 pm to
There’s a massive issue with it. It’s not that fact that people do whatever they want in their bedroom/personal life. That’s not their end game. They want to jam this mess down your children’s throats like it or not.

ISWYD
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139068 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:22 pm to
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Without mentioning religion, why?
It can't be done without mentioning religion. Why?
Because gay marriage does mention religion, and will continue to.

The solution was civil union.
quote:

University of Illinois law professor Robin Fretwell Wilson says it’s possible that institutions will be pressured to give ground on gay marriage by federal authorities (such as the Internal Revenue Service, which could take away an institution’s tax-exempt status), state civil rights commissions or private lawsuits. She notes, for example, that the federal government now reads its laws against sex discrimination “to include sexual orientation discrimination, which opens a whole layer of potential threat” to religious organizations.

LINK
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:22 pm to
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Gay "marriage" will never be equal to Biblical marriage.


No one believes that it is. They are totally separate.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17137 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:23 pm to
I dont care what two consenting adults do behind closed doors. But I dont want to see you making out in public. Including 2 hetro people.

Get a fricking room you weirdos.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139068 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:25 pm to
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No one believes that it is.
"No one" is an overly encompassing term
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56147 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:29 pm to
Abortion, now gay marriage. What's next on the agenda of "the way it's always been until now?" It appears underage sex with adults is on the horizon based on all the elites who are getting away with it. Prepare thyself.
Posted by Linoge
Member since Jun 2013
1947 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:29 pm to
My issue with it was never about adult gays marrying or whatever they do in the privacy of their own home. I didn't give a shite then nor do I care now.

My issue was that they would keep pushing to make their lifestyle the preferred one in society. That they would push their ideology onto our children and coerce them into thinking they are gay, or trans, or whatever new shite they make up. They that would use the media and government to destroy the traditional family.

And that fear has been proven 100% correct.

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