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Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:37 pm to shel311
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And people will believe that, that's the craziest part.
it doesn't take someone like Einstein to fully understand the idiocy of people like you who think, "Global Warming and Sea Levels Rising" will end life on earth as we know it.
it's a huge ponzi scheme by the left and there's a sucker born every minute.
ask Obama why he lives so close to the ocean.
--s u c k e r--
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:39 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Ive heard its expensive i just wasnt aware of how often. Every 3 years and i would never buy one. Every 10 or 15 years, seems more practical.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:40 pm to RedStickFox
It varies wildly. Thats part of the problem with EV’s.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:52 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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benefit (it isn't)
Likely an environmental negative as well.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:57 pm to RedStickFox
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Ive heard its expensive i just wasnt aware of how often. Every 3 years and i would never buy one. Every 10 or 15 years, seems more practical.
15ish with normal use for most of them with some variation and Tesla being the best. There’s some personal factors that vary like how often you charge, supercharge and a tolerance for degradation.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:40 am to Turbeauxdog
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Likely an environmental negative as well.
This isn't something I care about.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:43 am to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:BWAAA HAA HAAA HA HA
Poors like you sure are mad about EV’s.
said Daddy's money..
"God bless the child that has their own"
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:49 am to Zahrim
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Now factor in the invisible costs of mining and building the battery.
That’s on China using their slave labor and ruining their environment with strip mines and chemicals. Not on the minds of EV buyers here.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:50 am to shel311
quote:People believe what their biases and preconceptions TELL them to believe.quote:And people will believe that, that's the craziest part.
Adding the costs of the subsidies to the true cost of fueling an EV would equate to an EV owner paying $17.33 per gallon of gasoline," study authors Brent Bennett and Jason Isaac write.
Study after study has shown that MOST humans form an opinion and then look for supporting facts, rather than looking at the facts and THEN forming an opinion. It is what it is.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:56 am to JJJimmyJimJames
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said Daddy's money..
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All we know is there was an inheritance of up to $200 million. Donald Trump has never disputed the inheritance."
Is there any topic you’re adequately informed on? Because to date we’ve yet to find one.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:04 am to Antoninus
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People believe what their biases and preconceptions TELL them to believe.
Except for YOU of course....
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:02 am to RedStickFox
quote:“Recurrent estimates the out-of-pocket cost for a replacement ranges from $5,000 to $20,000. The total cost largely depends on the pack, size and manufacturer of the battery.
Im ignorant on battery replacements for EVs
According to J.D. Power, the cost of replacing a battery in the Tesla Model 3 is approximately $13,000, which is over 30% of the sedan’s starting price. Recurrent estimates the total cost to replace the Model 3’s battery is around $15,800 when labor is included.”
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:04 am to texag7
quote:Oh wow you can't refute what I said, I'll take that as you agree with me but just will refuse to admit it.
Oh wow you can actually read
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:06 am to s2
quote:He's mad because he actually believes the $17 a gallon number but calls me the sucker
it doesn't take someone like Einstein to fully understand the idiocy of people like you who think, "Global Warming and Sea Levels Rising" will end life on earth as we know it.
it's a huge ponzi scheme by the left and there's a sucker born every minute.
ask Obama why he lives so close to the ocean.
--s u c k e r--
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:08 am to shel311
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And people will believe that, that's the craziest part.
How much would it add?
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:12 am to Flats
quote:Actual number, no clue.
How much would it add?
But I can tell you factually that I pay less on charging per month than I do on gas, because I have 1 of each type of vehicle, so it's no that hard to figure out. Not to mention the car also tells you exactly how much energy you're using, paying for and will tell you the difference in what you paid for that vs what you'd have paid for the same amount of miles in gas, right down to the area you live in averaging out gas prices for that area.
The $17 number is at the very least 10-15x too high.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 11:14 am
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:26 am to Flats
On a factual note I have no idea about the $17 per gallon but there are substantial cost not include it in a number of discussions on EV
However, the purpose of my post is to specifically discuss technology
Even if you assume that a vehicle you want today with the last seven years with the batteries, the technology in the newer vehicle will have changed completely.
How many people are running a seven-year-old window system today? How many people have seven year old cell phones?
In seven years the battery technology may see the company to not even produce batteries suitable for a seven year old vehicle. Also the technology will most likely not be updated or updatable that far into the future to run the machines with the technology needed.
We are living in a throwaway society. Once it becomes on profitable to support these older vehicles it will stop.
For me, as long as there is gasoline I will be driving
However, the purpose of my post is to specifically discuss technology
Even if you assume that a vehicle you want today with the last seven years with the batteries, the technology in the newer vehicle will have changed completely.
How many people are running a seven-year-old window system today? How many people have seven year old cell phones?
In seven years the battery technology may see the company to not even produce batteries suitable for a seven year old vehicle. Also the technology will most likely not be updated or updatable that far into the future to run the machines with the technology needed.
We are living in a throwaway society. Once it becomes on profitable to support these older vehicles it will stop.
For me, as long as there is gasoline I will be driving
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 11:28 am
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:32 am to cajunangelle
Heating a home with natural gas costs about 1/4 the amount that it would cost with electric heat. That simple fact tends to indicate that the cost of EV charging is much higher than claimed.
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