re: Fueling electric vehicles costs roughly the equivalent of $17 a gallon: Study

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But I can tell you factually that I pay less on charging per month than I do on gas, because I have 1 of each type of vehicle, so it's no that hard to figure out. Not to mention the car also tells you exactly how much energy you're using, paying for and will tell you the difference in what you paid for that vs what you'd have paid for the same amount of miles in gas, right down to the area you live in averaging out gas prices for that area.

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I don't think you understood the OP.

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It factored things that aren't actually costs to fuel an electric car as costs to fuel an electric car, while not factoring in anything in the same realm that would be for gas powered vehicles.

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My understanding was that if factored in subsidies; you did not. Nobody's making the argument that an owner will spend more "filling up" an electric over gas, so I'm not sure what you think you were refuting. The point (whether his final number is accurate or not) is that there are hidden costs to people driving these that the taxpayers are picking up. And that's a fact as long as they're getting subsidized.

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Poors like you sure are mad about EV’s.

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This^^^ is the ramblings of a foolish narcissist.

It doesn't matter if the energy efficiency and costs of EVs is extremely poor when compared to traditional forms of transportation it's all about having the means to afford the hip "green" alternative to carbon based transportation....what a dupe.

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The point (and the title) of the study was about true costs, not specifically "fuel"

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So you're basically conceding that the title was intentionally incorrect in order to mislead, and they didn't mean what they said in the title but they meant something entirely different than what they claimed. Got it.


Also, very 1st line of the article reads:

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A new study found that fueling electric vehicles costs roughly $17 per gallon.

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But you're saying "not specifically 'fuel'" which again shows the gotcha they're attempting here.

But again, those "true" costs still aren't actual costs to fuel an electric vehicle, they're just trying to spin it that way. They're "true" costs to build and/or produce a vehicle, not fuel a vehicle.

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So you're basically conceding that the title was intentionally incorrect in order to mislead

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Of the article, not the study. Clearly you don't want to discuss the study and the aforementioned subsidies so I guess we won't.

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Clearly you don't want to discuss the study and the aforementioned subsidies so I guess we won't.

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Why do you think that a subsidy related to EV Supply Chain should be categorized as a "cost to fuel an electric vehicle?"

Right. I think a better way to look at it is to strip away the subsidies and set asides for EV (and probably the draconain eco-regulation around oil, ICE, etc.) and look at the actual cost of each vehicle type per mile of life. The EV is likely costlier. Down time, insurance, repair.. is all more too. It certainly has a worse net-impact on the environment.

Its like anything else, the market will sort all of this out if the government just gets TF out of the way.

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Right. I think a better way to look at it is to strip away the subsidies and set asides for EV (and probably the draconain eco-regulation around oil, ICE, etc.) and look at the actual cost of each vehicle type per mile of life. The EV is likely costlier. Down time, insurance, repair.. is all more too. It certainly has a worse net-impact on the environment.

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Even if I may not agreement with everything here with the results you think it will produce, you are stating the way it should be done or presented.

But taking a bunch of shite that is quite literally not a cost to fuel an electric vehicle and presenting them as costs to fuel an electric vehicle is just flat wrong. I was going to say disingenuous but wrong feels more apt.

whatever. you are getting hung up on semantics when the actual argument is staring you right in the face.

what will the actual cost per mile of life for an EV be once the government magic money stops, and will these vehicle systems really help the planet?

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whatever. you are getting hung up on semantics when the actual argument is staring you right in the face.

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And anybody who bothered to read even the first couple of paragraphs of the study would know why that was one of the ways the cost was stated.