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re: From “no way”, to now “likely” by the MSM that mRNA vaccine is causing heart inflammation.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:16 am to Kjnstkmn
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:16 am to Kjnstkmn
I’m vaccinated. But your post is why these pharmaceutical companies demanded immunity from prosecution.
I BET that any animal modeling in the past showed this. But then again, didn’t they SKIP much of the important testing trials?
Edit: the article also makes certain to specify, “small number” but I bet that number is a lot larger than “small”
I BET that any animal modeling in the past showed this. But then again, didn’t they SKIP much of the important testing trials?
Edit: the article also makes certain to specify, “small number” but I bet that number is a lot larger than “small”
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 6:18 am
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:21 am to GumboPot
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Researchers aren’t certain why
So you're saying there could be unknown problems with an experimental vaccine?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:24 am to Warfox
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I BET that any animal modeling in the past showed this. But then again, didn’t they SKIP much of the important testing trials?
It did in previous trials and it also showed massive issues with long term reproductive health and viability which is why some have been screaming about the total lack of long term health outcome data since day 1.
This vaccine MIGHT be appropriate for some but giving it to healthy children and adults of reproductive age could end up being one of the worst public health decisions of all time.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:27 am to Kjnstkmn
That's a lot of healthy people dying for no apparent reason.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:28 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Does COVID ever cause myocarditis? If so, at what rate compared to the vaccine?
Possibly.
Then again, who CHOOSES to get Covid?
People are choosing to be vaccinated (something that I am not against for the elderly). As such, it would be nice if they actually had all of the pertinent information so that they could make an informed decision.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:33 am to SelaTiger
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If they are even reporting on it at all, it’s higher than just a small number.
Warning: if CNN were to ever cover an article about this, look out.
Death rates from the vaccines would have to approach 50% before they'd ever mention it
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:40 am to tide06
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It did in previous trials and it also showed massive issues with long term reproductive health and viability which is why some have been screaming about the total lack of long term health outcome data since day 1.
I started numerous threads linking that info only to be ridiculed and the source attacked.
No one wanted to hear it.
I don’t understand not wanting to be skeptical of the government.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:49 am to GumboPot
Speaking of the WSJ, why are their Facebook and Twitter accounts suspended?
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 6:49 am
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:42 am to GumboPot
It's on the CDC website, clear as day. They aren't even hiding that there is an increased risk of myocarditis in younger men who get vaccinated.
But*
Let's force everyone to get vaccinated anyway.
But*
Let's force everyone to get vaccinated anyway.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:56 am to Kjnstkmn
Simply coincidence that all young otherwise healthy individuals had heart issues immediately afterwards. Move on nothing to worry about. Please line up single file now
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:00 am to GeorgeTheGreek
no it doesn't dumbass
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:01 am to Lima Whiskey
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The way the vaccine bypasses your immune system, and produces the spike protein in isolation probably makes it more dangerous than COVID. Multiple injections also makes it worse, by priming and then triggering a hyperactive response. Your immune system goes into a destructive hyperdrive.
This is so retarded. My good god.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:01 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Does COVID ever cause myocarditis? If so, at what rate compared to the vaccine?
We don’t know. Proper long term studies were not done on the vaccines.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:10 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Does COVID ever cause myocarditis? If so, at what rate compared to the vaccine?
Either way, that’s really concerning.
Yes, COVID can cause myocarditis. Lots of viral infections can cause myocarditis. The classic association is Coxsackie B causing myocarditis in a parent with a very young child who was recently sick. The estimates range from 5 to up to 10 percent of viral infections cause myocarditis, but we don't have a noninvasive diagnostic test. It's likely underreported.
That said, this isn't the first time a vaccination has been associated with myocarditis. Smallpox vaccinations had a rate of myocarditis that was around 1:200. It's an incredibly common sequalae of immune process.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:11 am to GumboPot
Vaccines cause an immune response.
This increases the inflammatory state of the body.
This occurs with all vaccines.
These covid vaccines are a bit stronger than the typical vaccine. This the inflammatory state is likely higher.
This means a mildly increased risk for any number of things. These rates are extremely low. The odd of serious side effect is really low, like inverse winning the lottery.
So outside of young kids it behooves one to get vaccinated. However in just not sure about kids. I really need to check the data on that...
This increases the inflammatory state of the body.
This occurs with all vaccines.
These covid vaccines are a bit stronger than the typical vaccine. This the inflammatory state is likely higher.
This means a mildly increased risk for any number of things. These rates are extremely low. The odd of serious side effect is really low, like inverse winning the lottery.
So outside of young kids it behooves one to get vaccinated. However in just not sure about kids. I really need to check the data on that...
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:14 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Does COVID ever cause myocarditis? If so, at what rate compared to the vaccine?
Either way, that’s really concerning.
I hate this dumbass talking point. I can avoid covid. There still an 85% chance I'll never catch it. I cant avoid this vax if I'm required by law to take it if I want to be able to feed my family.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:17 am to GumboPot
Our preachers' wife,(no pics), is a nurse. Her coworkers hubby got the 2nd shot, and has been paralyzed ever since. 50 years old. He's starting to get some movement back. Not sure how long since his 2nd shot.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:22 am to loogaroo
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I don’t understand not wanting to be skeptical of the government.
If a gov't employee told me the sky was blue, I'd look up to verify. I was 'skeptical' of the gov't 20 years ago. Now, I simply don't believe anything they say.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:22 am to 1BIGTigerFan
quote:Did you bother to see if those were out of the norm? 8-10 soccer players die annually while playing. Association soccer this year has had fewer deaths than previous years. Four after the vax was allowed for general public. 2009, 2010, 2017, 2016 all had more.
That's a lot of healthy people dying for no apparent reason
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