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re: From “no way”, to now “likely” by the MSM that mRNA vaccine is causing heart inflammation.

Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:16 am to
Posted by Warfox
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:16 am to
I’m vaccinated. But your post is why these pharmaceutical companies demanded immunity from prosecution.

I BET that any animal modeling in the past showed this. But then again, didn’t they SKIP much of the important testing trials?

Edit: the article also makes certain to specify, “small number” but I bet that number is a lot larger than “small”
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 6:18 am
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:21 am to
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Researchers aren’t certain why

So you're saying there could be unknown problems with an experimental vaccine?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:24 am to
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I BET that any animal modeling in the past showed this. But then again, didn’t they SKIP much of the important testing trials?

It did in previous trials and it also showed massive issues with long term reproductive health and viability which is why some have been screaming about the total lack of long term health outcome data since day 1.

This vaccine MIGHT be appropriate for some but giving it to healthy children and adults of reproductive age could end up being one of the worst public health decisions of all time.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:27 am to
That's a lot of healthy people dying for no apparent reason.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
40031 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:28 am to
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Does COVID ever cause myocarditis? If so, at what rate compared to the vaccine?


Possibly.

Then again, who CHOOSES to get Covid?

People are choosing to be vaccinated (something that I am not against for the elderly). As such, it would be nice if they actually had all of the pertinent information so that they could make an informed decision.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65923 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:33 am to
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If they are even reporting on it at all, it’s higher than just a small number.

Warning: if CNN were to ever cover an article about this, look out.
Death rates from the vaccines would have to approach 50% before they'd ever mention it
Posted by loogaroo
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:40 am to
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It did in previous trials and it also showed massive issues with long term reproductive health and viability which is why some have been screaming about the total lack of long term health outcome data since day 1.


I started numerous threads linking that info only to be ridiculed and the source attacked.
No one wanted to hear it.

I don’t understand not wanting to be skeptical of the government.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:49 am to
Speaking of the WSJ, why are their Facebook and Twitter accounts suspended?
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 6:49 am
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:52 am to
Admition is a start
Posted by fjlee90
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Member since Nov 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:42 am to
It's on the CDC website, clear as day. They aren't even hiding that there is an increased risk of myocarditis in younger men who get vaccinated.

But*

Let's force everyone to get vaccinated anyway.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
14814 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:56 am to
Simply coincidence that all young otherwise healthy individuals had heart issues immediately afterwards. Move on nothing to worry about. Please line up single file now
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21424 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:00 am to
no it doesn't dumbass
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
38091 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:01 am to
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The way the vaccine bypasses your immune system, and produces the spike protein in isolation probably makes it more dangerous than COVID. Multiple injections also makes it worse, by priming and then triggering a hyperactive response. Your immune system goes into a destructive hyperdrive.



This is so retarded. My good god.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21784 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:01 am to
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Does COVID ever cause myocarditis? If so, at what rate compared to the vaccine?


We don’t know. Proper long term studies were not done on the vaccines.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
38091 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:10 am to
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Does COVID ever cause myocarditis? If so, at what rate compared to the vaccine?

Either way, that’s really concerning.


Yes, COVID can cause myocarditis. Lots of viral infections can cause myocarditis. The classic association is Coxsackie B causing myocarditis in a parent with a very young child who was recently sick. The estimates range from 5 to up to 10 percent of viral infections cause myocarditis, but we don't have a noninvasive diagnostic test. It's likely underreported.

That said, this isn't the first time a vaccination has been associated with myocarditis. Smallpox vaccinations had a rate of myocarditis that was around 1:200. It's an incredibly common sequalae of immune process.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15713 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:11 am to
Vaccines cause an immune response.

This increases the inflammatory state of the body.

This occurs with all vaccines.

These covid vaccines are a bit stronger than the typical vaccine. This the inflammatory state is likely higher.

This means a mildly increased risk for any number of things. These rates are extremely low. The odd of serious side effect is really low, like inverse winning the lottery.

So outside of young kids it behooves one to get vaccinated. However in just not sure about kids. I really need to check the data on that...

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43992 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:14 am to
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Does COVID ever cause myocarditis? If so, at what rate compared to the vaccine?

Either way, that’s really concerning.


I hate this dumbass talking point. I can avoid covid. There still an 85% chance I'll never catch it. I cant avoid this vax if I'm required by law to take it if I want to be able to feed my family.
Posted by smh4wg
Member since May 2021
777 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:17 am to
Our preachers' wife,(no pics), is a nurse. Her coworkers hubby got the 2nd shot, and has been paralyzed ever since. 50 years old. He's starting to get some movement back. Not sure how long since his 2nd shot.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43334 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:22 am to
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I don’t understand not wanting to be skeptical of the government.



If a gov't employee told me the sky was blue, I'd look up to verify. I was 'skeptical' of the gov't 20 years ago. Now, I simply don't believe anything they say.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75461 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:22 am to
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That's a lot of healthy people dying for no apparent reason
Did you bother to see if those were out of the norm? 8-10 soccer players die annually while playing. Association soccer this year has had fewer deaths than previous years. Four after the vax was allowed for general public. 2009, 2010, 2017, 2016 all had more.
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