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re: Former U.S. ambassador to Russia says Putin needs to be defeated
Posted on 12/18/24 at 8:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/18/24 at 8:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Just admit you prefer other people die to support your flimsy values and youre not fit for it yourself.
I don’t want anyone dying, but I certainly support the right to defend yourself.
If a thug broke into your house, I support your right to protect yourself. If you had to use deadly force so be it.
Russia broke into Ukraine’s house. I support Ukraine’s right to use deadly force to protect themselves and to throw them out.
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 8:45 am to The Maj
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You don't have to be athletic to shoot a firearm or catch a bullet...
The SEC games are rough and rugged, but I don’t thing you need to be armed to play.
Maybe soccer, but not football.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 8:48 am to RFK
It implies Mr Meatgrinder that our leaders no longer consider our Constitution relevant when it comes to sending our citizens to fight around the globe.
It implies that extremely few of the elites that run the country have family fighting in these undeclared wars.
Which most of the citizens with a IQ above a rock understand make it easier to engage in deadly force around the globe.
It implies that extremely few of the elites that run the country have family fighting in these undeclared wars.
Which most of the citizens with a IQ above a rock understand make it easier to engage in deadly force around the globe.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 8:49 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Former U.S. ambassador to Russia says Putin needs to be defeated
So does the US Deep State cabal that instigated this war with their NATO on Russia's doorstep BS.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 8:51 am to doubleb
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I don’t want anyone dying
Of course you do.
You and I both know how this ends. You just want to kill as many young men as possible until a negotiated settlement happens.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 8:53 am to doubleb
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Russia broke into the CIA's house.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 8:54 am to RFK
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The common retort "go fight yourself” is a false equivalence. It implies that the only legitimate form of support for a cause or conflict is direct military involvement.
But why must Putin be "defeated", while these exact same people completely ignore Xi Xinping and China's incalculable numbers of human rights violations?
Who is responsible for more death? Who is an actual threat to the Western World? Of Xi and Putin, who has countless undocumented illegal nationals on US soil?
frick "diplomatic" or any other type of involvement in Ukraine against Russia. Limited "aid" to that of the humanitarian variety only. We should be focusing on something that's actually a threat to the USA.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 8:54 am to RFK
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So dumb.
You're a coward
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:03 am to Herschal
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Russia broke into the CIA's house.
They invaded Ukraine. If the CIA was there so what? That’s no excuse to start a war.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:05 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Of course you do. You and I both know how this ends. You just want to kill as many young men as possible until a negotiated settlement happens.
You don’t know me or what I want. And you certainly don’t know how and when this war is going to end.
You don’t know what you are talking about.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:18 am to Cuz413
quote:Can you explain what you mean by this?
It's amazing how a large portion of Americans disregard the war Ukraine waged on the Donbas people before Russia's involvement and completely ignore U.S. involvement in 2014.
Russia commandos invaded Sloviansk in 2014, unprovoked. Obama and NATO wasn’t strong enough to counter the aggression the way we did in 2022, but that’s what started our main involvement in Ukraine.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:18 am to doubleb
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You don’t know me or what I want.
You've made it clear.
Youre just terrified to involve yourself. Thats pretty cowardly.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:19 am to RFK
quote:OK. Well, now you see that you were wrong. Ukraine will lose.
And I disagree “it was always clear that Ukraine would lose.”
But forget about the past. Right now, how does prolonging the war help the Ukrainians?
quote:Let's say you're right: So what? What does getting more Ukrainians killed accomplish?
The U.S. didn’t start this war, Putin did.
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 9:29 am
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:02 am to doubleb
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I support LSU football. I donate to TAF, buy tickets and cheer for the team.
The last thing they would want me to do is play. They wouldn’t want my kids either. My grandsons are too young, but neither is athletic enough to play football.
Lol... That's a horrible comparison! 3% of high school football players go on to play at a major college level. Many more folks than that would be capable of serving in the military.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You've made it clear. Youre just terrified to involve yourself. Thats pretty cowardly.
I have made it clear. You don’t know anything about me or what you are talking about.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:34 am to doubleb
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You don’t know anything about me
judging you by your own words.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:15 am to I Love Bama
quote:I sometimes forget I am on the Poli Board, the world where everyone other than Putin is responsible for starting the war.
A person who advocates for war without any sort of personal sacrifice is the truest piece of shite.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:45 am to RFK
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RFK
What a bitch!
Posted on 12/18/24 at 4:14 pm to RFK
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This is about Putin’s actions abroad and against a significant U.S. partner.
A significant US partner in money laundering and development of biological weapons. Ukraine does as much good for the average American citizen as Russia does, which is nothing.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 4:21 pm to RFK
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So dumb.
The common retort "go fight yourself” is a false equivalence. It implies that the only legitimate form of support for a cause or conflict is direct military involvement.
Support for a country or a cause can take many forms, including diplomatic, economic, humanitarian aid, or moral support. This argument dismisses the validity of non-combatant support roles.
No one has shown me a legitimate case for why Putin needs any kind of intervention from America at all.
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