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Foremost Ukraine experts: This War is the USA's fault

Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:35 pm
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:35 pm
No question about it.

John Mearsheimer, Ray McGovern easily frame the truth about Rusia/Ukraine
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 10:00 pm
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37532 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:38 pm to
It’s time Zelensky drops the MOAB of all the Clinton, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Kerry, Graham, McConnell, etc family crimes laundering money from American tax paying citizens back to their own filthy pockets.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
34344 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:40 pm to
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This War is the USA's fault
Could be our "fault" but we are not the perpetrators. Russia still has agency, and they are using that agency to shoot missiles at apartment buildings.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by Bearcat90
The Land
Member since Nov 2021
2955 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:41 pm to
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No question about it.


Agreed
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:42 pm to
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Could be our "fault" but we are not the perpetrators.
Oh but we are. An army of CIA has been there likely for decades now and particularly since the Ukraine coup that was run by our State Department and the CIA

Watch this video when you get the time
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
4053 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:42 pm to
Let’s put the blame for this war where it belongs and that would be right square on the shoulders of Vlad Putin.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:45 pm to
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Let’s put the blame for this war where it belongs and that would be right square on the shoulders of Vlad Putin.

Did you 'seen' it?

You are in no way qualified to make such a statement. Believe me.

Watch the video
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
4182 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:55 pm to
How is it solely on Putins shoulders?

Putin has literally said out loud several times the things he would consider as provocative to him and his country.

Whether you think it's rational or not isn't the real question. The real question is "do you feel lucky?"

He said out loud what would happen. And we didnt listen for over 20 yrs. We kept poking the bear. And some of this goes even further back than that.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
4053 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:04 pm to
How long are you going to throw a stupid typo in my face. I mean damn I have seen 2nd graders with more maturity than you. This is like the 3rd time you have brought it up. Let it go man we are not in second grade. Show some maturity. The next thing you will be asking me to do is pull your finger.

I think I’m just as qualified as you are probably even more so since I’m not supporting a thug and killer. This isn’t a very hard problem to solve. Putin is at fault here. He invaded another country. He violated international laws and norms. I don’t need to watch 1 single video to tell me all that. Putin is a war criminal that should be put on trial and then put to death.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
18084 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:09 pm to
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I think I’m just as qualified as you are probably even more so since I’m not supporting a thug and killer. This isn’t a very hard problem to solve. Putin is at fault here. He invaded another country. He violated international laws and norms. I don’t need to watch 1 single video to tell me all that. Putin is a war criminal that should be put on trial and then put to death.


Hmm. Explain how it is you think USA became a thing. Like I’m 5.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
16490 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:13 pm to
Is there a cliffs for this? I'm interested, but over an hour is a steep commitment for a weeknight.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
4053 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:17 pm to
What are you talking about? I didn’t call the USA a thing. I did refer to you as a 2nd grader but I didn’t call the USA a thing.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
18084 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:19 pm to
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What are you talking about? I didn’t call the USA a thing. I did refer to you as a 2nd grader but I didn’t call the USA a thing.


How are you this shitfaced on a Monday?
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
4053 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:22 pm to
I’m not. You must be though because you are not making much sense.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:23 pm to
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Putin has literally said out loud several times the things he would consider as provocative to him and his country.



frick Putin's feelings:

Russia agreed to:
1.Respect Belarusian, Kazakh and Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
Refrain from the threat or the use of force against Belarus, Kazakhstan or Ukraine.
2.Refrain from using economic pressure on Belarus, Kazakhstan or Ukraine to influence their politics.
3. Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to Belarus, Kazakhstan or Ukraine if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
4. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Belarus, Kazakhstan or Ukraine.
5. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments.

Ukraine is an independent state it has the right to seek closer ties with the west and not be a Belarus.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:25 pm to
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Could be our "fault" but we are not the perpetrators. Russia still has agency, and they are using that agency to shoot missiles at apartment buildings.


If you get backed into a corner by a guy twice as big as you, do you throw the first punch or do you let him take his best shot first?
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
16904 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:34 pm to
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time Zelensky drops the MOAB of all the Clinton, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Kerry, Graham, McConnell, etc family crimes laundering money from American tax paying citizens back to their own filthy pockets.
He doesn’t want to commit suicide
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:51 pm to
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How long are you going to throw a stupid typo in my face.
it was not a typo.
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I think I’m just as qualified as you are probably even more so
you are not, trust me.
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since I’m not supporting a thug and killer.
the 1000s of people killed in the Maidan coup of 2014 disagree.
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Putin is at fault here. He invaded another country. He violated international laws and norms. I don’t need to watch 1 single video to tell me all that. Putin is a war criminal that should be put on trial and then put to death.
you are utterly insane making such a comment and the ultimate 'not qualified'. The USA caused near 100% of the problems Ukraine is trying to crawl out from under.

'wont watch the video' say more than I ever could. not that you didn't, its long - but that you won't.

No wonder you seen the things you think you

Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:55 pm to
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Is there a cliffs for this? I'm interested, but over an hour is a steep commitment for a weeknight.

I realize that - watch the first 30 minutes of it - John Mearsheimers part. He is a long time expert on eastern europe and makes more sense than anyone I have heard. Sometime you cant say enough in 2 and a half minutes.

I do get what you are saying however.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 3:23 pm
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