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For those who are pro choice: At what point do you feel a fetus becomes a human being?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:04 am
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:04 am
When it can feel pain? When it is viable outside the womb? Once it is born?
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:05 am to mouton
When it starts not paying enough taxes
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:06 am to mouton
when it registers Democrat
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:07 am to mouton
Question for you, once born, does this human deserve all the help it can get from the state if born into a wasteland of poverty and/or abuse?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:07 am to mouton
At what point do you feel it is not?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:09 am to Demshoes
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deserve
No one deserves anything
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from the state
No.
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wasteland of poverty and/or abuse?
the result of misguided government policy? certainly, the answer is more government
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:09 am to CORIMA
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At what point do you feel it is not?
Didn't your parents ever teach you never to answer a question with a question?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:10 am to mouton
I'll answer for them...once it dedicates its life to being a blue voter
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:13 am to mouton
Strain at a gnat...swallow a camel. This issue is not about fringe arguments re when life begins...it goes the basic Cultural Paradigm/"First Premise" of a God-based Universe...as opposed to the Secular Humanist version. All things - Rights at the fore - spring from one's chosen "First Premise" (Thomas Sowell).
Either life is sacred - as being a 'piece' of God in it's essence - and to be revered (which the Pro Abortion Premise does not believe) or it is a relatively worthless, exploitable, temporal and expendable Entity to be manipulated at the whims of whomever holds power to do so.
"Can two walk together lest they be agreed". No easily so. Especially where beliefs are polar, and one infringes on the other's Rights.
Either life is sacred - as being a 'piece' of God in it's essence - and to be revered (which the Pro Abortion Premise does not believe) or it is a relatively worthless, exploitable, temporal and expendable Entity to be manipulated at the whims of whomever holds power to do so.
"Can two walk together lest they be agreed". No easily so. Especially where beliefs are polar, and one infringes on the other's Rights.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:14 am to Demshoes
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Question for you, once born, does this human deserve all the help it can get from the state if born into a wasteland of poverty and/or abuse?
Your interventions just don’t work.
They don’t help.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:15 am to Demshoes
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does this human deserve all the help it can get from the stat
nope, not from the state.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:17 am to Demshoes
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Question for you, once born, does this human deserve all the help it can get from the state if born into a wasteland of poverty and/or abuse?
Why is it pro choice folks don't want to answer my question?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:18 am to mouton
Do hardcore anti-abortionists believe Plan B is abortion?
Just curious
Just curious
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:20 am to JuiceTerry
quote:Why you don't want to answer my question?
Just curious
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:21 am to Demshoes
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Question for you, once born, does this human deserve all the help it can get from the state if born into a wasteland of poverty and/or abuse?
It deserves whatever help the state offers to all citizens. Are we talking about whether babies get to live or die or are we discussing government benefits? Are you suggesting we should kill some people so the state can reduce what it pays in benefits?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:21 am to mouton
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This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 11:01 am
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:21 am to mouton
I don't have an answer and I'm pretty much agnostic about abortion 
Can you answer mine?
Can you answer mine?
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 10:22 am
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:21 am to JuiceTerry
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Do hardcore anti-abortionists believe Plan B is abortion?
Plan B? nope, I don't think so
Abortion Pill? yep
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:23 am to Vecchio Cane
quote:OK
Plan B? nope, I don't think so
Abortion Pill? yep
What's the difference?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:23 am to JuiceTerry
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Do hardcore anti-abortionists believe Plan B is abortion?
I honestly have always wondered this myself.
The argument seems to always come back to pro-life advocates being anti-"birth control", but I have never found to be accurate pro-choice people from this century to advocate for banning "the pill" or condoms. The only way that narrative would make sense would be for those same people to oppose Plan B, but I don't even know if that is true.
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