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for those of you that vote "NO" on every amendment...

Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:10 am
Posted by Sull
Benton, LA
Member since Aug 2006
3275 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:10 am
if you believe in the right to life and are against abortion please vote yes on Amendment 1

This short video explains the amendment in layman's terms
Love Life

ARGUMENT FOR
The purpose of this amendment is to place the abortion issue in the hands of the people through
their elected officials and their statewide vote on this amendment, rather than with their state court
judges. Supreme courts in 13 other states have interpreted their constitutions to discover a state right
to abortion and have used that to strike down laws for mandatory ultrasounds, 72-hour waitingperiods and other limitations. This amendment will prevent that from happening in Louisiana.
Judicial consideration of such important issues should be decided on the clear intent of law passed
by the Legislature rather than on legal ambiguities.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 11:17 am
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
4429 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:12 am to
Can’t believe some jerk would downvote this.

To the jerk...do you like the idea if slaughtering unborn babies?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29678 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:17 am to
quote:

for those of you that vote "NO" on every amendment...



that would be me, UNLESS someone I trust can explain to me why to support one

if I was in LA, I would be happy to make an exception on this one

Posted by bod312
Member since Jul 2015
846 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:27 am to
I found the below guide detailing the amendments to be very helpful. I found that I will vote yes on a lot more than I thought. This was probably a waste of time because so many will vote "no" without even researching the details.

I am curious to see how amendment #1 turns out because there is so much vocal support. I have seen more amendment #1 vote yes signs than Trump or Biden signs.

PAR Guide to Amendments
Posted by Phate
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
11723 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:28 am to
I have a family member who calls herself a born again Christian that proudly posted on Facebook that she voted no and urged others to do the same. Her reason was that being pro choice doesn't mean you're pro abortion. It simply means you don't want to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her body. That of course is absurd as she is also part of the silence is violence crowd. She is also a proud Biden voter and BLM supporter. Pretty much liberal across the board. It doesn't make sense to me that someone could be a Christian and in anyway vote to allow the killing of an innocent child.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:50 am to
In the "argument against" section, it states that Louisiana already has a law to ban abortion if Roe v Wade is overturned. Is this true, and if so, how likely is that law to hold up? I'm pro life and against abortion, but if Louisiana already has a valid law that will ban abortion, what's the point of adding a constitutional amendment banning it? Genuinely asking because that's the reason I'd consider voting no.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14491 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:06 am to
quote:

In the "argument against" section, it states that Louisiana already has a law to ban abortion if Roe v Wade is overturned. Is this true, and if so, how likely is that law to hold up? I'm pro life and against abortion, but if Louisiana already has a valid law that will ban abortion, what's the point of adding a constitutional amendment banning it? Genuinely asking because that's the reason I'd consider voting no.


So if Roe is overturned there would be no federal barriers to a Louisiana abortion ban. However it is possible that the state supreme court could find a right to abortion in "penumbras" of the Louisiana constitution. Probably won't happen but something like 12 other states have found a right to abortion in their STATE constitution.

Hope that helps.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:45 am to
quote:

To the jerk...do you like the idea if slaughtering unborn babies?

Dims love to kill babies. Just ask one
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:47 am to
quote:

It doesn't make sense to me that someone could be a Christian and in anyway vote to allow the killing of an innocent child.

This can't be said enough.
The people in your life that claim this should be challenged to explain themselves because you can't be Christian and be for killing innocent babies.

ETA: Downvotes without explanations are likely baby killing "Christians"
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 12:03 pm
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:49 am to
quote:

This short video explains the amendment in layman's terms



It does no such thing.

The language of the proposed amendment says there would be "no right to abortion"

Does this categorically outlaw abortion? Or does it simply clarify that the State is under no obligation to provide them / pay for them?

EDIT: Nevermind read the guide posted above. That clears it up.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 10:52 am
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6711 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:50 am to
I just don’t want it taxpayer funded, so that’s why I will vote yes.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118759 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:51 am to
This is how I voted on the Louisiana constitutional amendments:

1. Y
2. N
3. N
4. Y
5. Y
6. Y
7. Y

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57924 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:59 am to
I wish the amendments were worded in a way that common folks would not
be confused by the language
Get the Geux Vote app and familiarize yourself with the amendments beforehand
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 11:03 am
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6908 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:07 am to
quote:

I wish the amendments were worded in a way that common folks would not
be confused by the language

Me too. This is what they look like to me:

"Do you support (double negative) clause in the legislature that prohibits the enforcement of (double negative) to the degree possible should the need arise in future years henceforth but not as of this moment?"
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81620 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:09 am to
quote:

Can’t believe some jerk would downvote this.

To the jerk...do you like the idea if slaughtering unborn babies?




quote:

If Roe v. Wade is not overturned, this amendment at best would be pointless


There.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36174 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:10 am to
quote:

It doesn't make sense to me that someone could be a Christian and in anyway vote to allow the killing of an innocent child.


Many many Christians are pro-choice.
One close friend believes that if for example, a young 14 year old gets raped by a thug, she should have the option of not having her life forever changed or ruined. In that scenario, that is not God’s will for that to happen. That was an evil act. That’s the will of the devil
Posted by Sull
Benton, LA
Member since Aug 2006
3275 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:15 am to
ARGUMENT FOR
The purpose of this amendment is to place the abortion issue in the hands of the people through
their elected officials and their statewide vote on this amendment, rather than with their state court
judges. Supreme courts in 13 other states have interpreted their constitutions to discover a state right
to abortion and have used that to strike down laws for mandatory ultrasounds, 72-hour waitingperiods and other limitations. This amendment will prevent that from happening in Louisiana.
Judicial consideration of such important issues should be decided on the clear intent of law passed
by the Legislature rather than on legal ambiguities.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

In that scenario, that is not God’s will for that to happen.

What a "moving the goalposts" reason to be OK with killing unborn children.
What if it was God's will for that child to be conceived?
If you are for killing babies, for ANY reason, you are not a Christian.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14491 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

1. Y
2. N
3. N
4. Y
5. Y
6. Y
7. Y


Curious why you are a No on #2. The assessors and oil and gas folks agree this is a better assessment method. I haven't seen a single organization's recommendations that have a No on #2.

Honestly not trying to persuade you, but just trying to understand.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67077 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:15 pm to
Because oil and gas production is already taxed and revenue from oil and gas production isn’t a constant source of income, but cyclical and sporadic. Basically, the assessor would continue to value your property as if it’s producing oil when it’s not and continue taxing you for money you’re not earning.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 12:36 pm
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