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re: For Those Curious What DOGE Has Been Up To - Cleaning Up 12.3M+ Folks on SS Aged 120+
Posted on 5/24/25 at 6:07 am to Tigers0918
Posted on 5/24/25 at 6:07 am to Tigers0918
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some random 21 year old kids
but you’re ok with them designing and deploying every app you’ve blindly downloaded to your phone? Is that correct?
Or… better yet, the same “random 21 year old” that developed every website you visit, mine every bit of data about you, create a shadow profile of you, and sell your info to the highest bidder?
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 7:03 am to Tarps99
But, if your SS# is 9 digits long & each can be 0-9, that’s 10 (to the 9th power) or 1,000,000,000 possible combinations.
Have we had 1 BILLION on earth (who have been around to use SS#’s)?
Have we had 1 BILLION on earth (who have been around to use SS#’s)?
Posted on 5/24/25 at 7:09 am to oldskule
Caling all Repubs & oldskule!!!
If this has been going on for years, YOU HAVEN’T stopped it either!
Even more crickets!
If this has been going on for years, YOU HAVEN’T stopped it either!
Even more crickets!
Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:12 am to southernboisb
I doubt the SSA has reached 1 billion, but there are fewer than 1 billion numbers available as you have to throw out certain combinations because who would want Social Security numbers 000-00-0001 or any number with the prefix 666-xx-xxxx or 999-99-9999.
Also certain ranges are set aside for businesses, LLC’s, governments, estates, guest workers, etc. where you do don’t use your personal social security numbers.
And in a corporate structure, you could have hundreds of sub LLC’s each with its own tax id which can further reduce the less than 1 billion in 9 digit numbers.
But my real point is that there is no security tied to just the number no check sum number like what credit cards use to validate number.
That would reduce the numbers available, but make it harder to just give out 9 digits of someone else and have it come back as valid. Also, maybe add second 3 or 4 digit code like the CCV on a credit card to further validate the number.
But like anything if someone steals a social security card with this information someone can still use it.
Also certain ranges are set aside for businesses, LLC’s, governments, estates, guest workers, etc. where you do don’t use your personal social security numbers.
And in a corporate structure, you could have hundreds of sub LLC’s each with its own tax id which can further reduce the less than 1 billion in 9 digit numbers.
But my real point is that there is no security tied to just the number no check sum number like what credit cards use to validate number.
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The checksum for validating a credit card number, often called the Luhn algorithm, uses a specific formula to determine if a number is likely valid. The algorithm involves doubling every second digit from the right, subtracting 9 if the result is greater than 9, and summing all the digits, including the doubled (and potentially reduced) digits. If the final sum is divisible by 10, the number is considered valid
That would reduce the numbers available, but make it harder to just give out 9 digits of someone else and have it come back as valid. Also, maybe add second 3 or 4 digit code like the CCV on a credit card to further validate the number.
But like anything if someone steals a social security card with this information someone can still use it.
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 8:22 am
Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:21 am to Tigers0918
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Trump could have told the SS office they have 6 months or whatever timeframe to clean up files, delete dead people, and put together a report to give directly to him. That would have been fine.
Why when the 21 year old programmer can do it in a few weeks? To act like they didn’t do a background check on these programmers is just dumb.What is the difference between them and the 21 year old who works there who would take 6 months to get the job done?
Posted on 5/24/25 at 9:24 am to Tarps99
What’s with the “666” starting group?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:00 am to southernboisb
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Have we had 1 BILLION on earth (who have been around to use SS#’s)?
The numbers aren't randomly assigned. Historically, the first 3 digits are the regional code assigned to the geographic area where you were born. It's further broken down into smaller zones/groups within the state.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:04 am to Tigers0918
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Trump could have told the SS office they have 6 months or whatever timeframe to clean up files, delete dead people, and put together a report to give directly to him. That would have been fine.
Explain how this is different from what is happening.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:08 am to TxWadingFool
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Why doesn't it say if any of those were actually collecting payments?
Because they weren’t. It is also apparent that Social Security already has a mechanism to mark persons as deceased. Otherwise there would be millions more people 120 years or older.
So this is routine database cleanup that happens all the time. How much more does this cost through DIGE than we were already paying for this service?
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 7:13 am
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:14 am to VoxDawg
Plus discovering that millions of illegals were given SS numbers in 2024. How could that happen you say???!
“ Regarding how that is possible, a coworker of Musk’s looking at social security, Anthony Gracias, CEO of Valor Equity Partners, said that the previous administration had a policy that allowed migrants to enter the country and then register for social security, Breitbart News reported.”
Biden officials need to be locked up.
“ Regarding how that is possible, a coworker of Musk’s looking at social security, Anthony Gracias, CEO of Valor Equity Partners, said that the previous administration had a policy that allowed migrants to enter the country and then register for social security, Breitbart News reported.”
Biden officials need to be locked up.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:31 am to TBoy
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So this is routine database cleanup that happens all the time.
Only it hasn't been, which is why it needed to be purged of 12M+ people who are over 120 years old.
We're not saying the records have never been cleaned up. We're saying they've deliberately been allowed to go to seed, with many (if not all) of those additional numbers either being used for some manner of money laundering, election fraud, or a proprietary blend of both in the past 15 years or so.
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How much more does this cost through DIGE than we were already paying for this service?
TBoy - fiscal hawk since Jan. 20, 2025.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:39 am to TBoy
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Because they weren’t. It is also apparent that Social Security already has a mechanism to mark persons as deceased. Otherwise there would be millions more people 120 years or older.
Yeah, it is happening perfectly well since there is in excess of 12 million over 120 years old on the SS roles? JFC!
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So this is routine database cleanup that happens all the time. How much more does this cost through DIGE than we were already paying for this service?
It is costing zero since it is being completed by US Governemnet employees. The issue isn’t if the number is used to get SS benefits it applies the countless other entitlements or grants/loans that rely on a valid SSN to issue/award them. When a “1 year old” is getting an $1M Covid loan that was later “forgiven” it is an issue
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:42 am to Wolfhound45
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Dead people over 120 years old are people too.
120+YOLM.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:42 am to VoxDawg
These are people just still on the rolls, not receiving benefits..
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:43 am to ABearsFanNMS
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When a “1 year old” is getting an $1M Covid loan that was later “forgiven” it is an issue
If that happened, prosecute and claw back.
But as of now, all of the fraud scenarios are imagined by random people like you. I guess if the goal is to fight imagined fraud, we always win, right?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:49 am to Royalfishing
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Plus discovering that millions of illegals were given SS numbers in 2024. How could that happen you say???!
JFC, this again?
U.S. law allows asylum seekers who have submitted an asylum application to have a legal work status. They are issued SSN and are taxed. They aren’t “illegals” when they are lawfully admitted asylum seekers.
If republicans have any interest in changing the law, they control Congress and the presidency and can change it.
It’s like yall wake up each day and discover the sun.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:51 am to TBoy
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U.S. law allows asylum seekers
What were all these ppl seeking asylum from?
I mean brazilians? Ecuadorians, hondutans, Venzeulans etc
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:52 am to VoxDawg
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The numbers aren't randomly assigned. Historically, the first 3 digits are the regional code assigned to the geographic area where you were born. It's further broken down into smaller zones/groups within the state.
This changed in 2011, they're now random.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:54 am to 6R12
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I just want to know if 12.3 Mil people will reimburse SS that money
They are long dead. It's the recipients that have been perpetrating the fraud.Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:55 am to TBoy
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If that happened, prosecute and claw back.
It not an “if”, it is an “is”. You have a documented case of a Colombian illegal alien taking over $400K in entitlements and getting 8 various state driver licenses. That is one specific example dude. Then they also had to shut down the SSN call in lines because they identified that 40% of the grift was occurring via the avenue and mostly by foreign agents. Yet you want to sit here and argue “ifs” claiming that people trying to help us all are scamming us when the people let in by Jotato are robbing us blind and our systems are so easy to exploit.
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