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re: For Those Blaming Lack of FEMA Funds on Ukraine, A Reminder of How U.S. Fiscal Law Works

Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by RFK
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:00 pm to
I believe we should do everything we can to support those in NC and GA. We can rely on NG training funds, and probably do some creative legal wrangling to make other appropriations viable.

My point is you can't easily take the Ukraine funds and divert it to FEMA.

My understanding is FEMA interpreted U.S. fiscal law to allow them to give existing relief money to immigrants. How they did that, I don't know because I don't have all the facts.
Posted by Boss13
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:00 pm to
A long, rambling response to defend something that doesn't pass the logic test and only confirms what people are pissed about.

I help you sum it up for us plebiscite.

"Everything you are seeing, the money being spent on, for example illegal aliens, overseas wars, pet projects, and not for the good of Americans, is systemic."

You are correct, which is why so many people want Trump to change everything about the system except the constitution that protects our rights.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135489 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:01 pm to
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For Those Blaming Lack of FEMA Funds on Ukraine, A Reminder of How U.S. Fiscal Law Works
Now do immigrants!
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1016 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:03 pm to
OK dipschit tell me about American leadership on the global stage?
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65134 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:04 pm to
It’s the first couple days of the fiscal year, how did FEMA go broke, what about the next hurricane or fire in California? We just found 2.4 Billion for Ukraine, but the Southeast is “ fend for yourselves “
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
30923 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:05 pm to
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We cannot let short-term distractions make us forger that American leadership on the global stage is important and is one of our best long-term security strategies.


This dude fricking sucks.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4602 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:08 pm to
America needs to be strong itself. We are so busy funding and intaking everyone else, we are falling. No working productive American should be without a home and other necessities. They may not be reallocating funds, but they can allocating and put America first. Immigration support and welfare should be zero. Unless it’s for the welfare of all Americans.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85693 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:08 pm to
This is from aug 2023, same problems we are facing now. They refused to fund fema at the beginning of last year. They were asking for just under $12 billion. Joe gave them $12 million.


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When the U.S. Senate reconvenes next week, U.S. Sen. Rick Scott says he’ll introduce legislation to ensure that disaster relief dollars are fully funded to help pay for damage from Hurricane Idalia — and not be linked to military funding for Ukraine.

The proposed linking of funds for Ukraine with disaster relief has angered Scott along with his GOP Senate colleague Marco Rubio.

“We’ve had enough with Washington playing politics and demand that Congress does what’s right for American families, starting with ensuring our federal government has all the resources it needs to show up after disasters, now and in the future,“ Scott said in a press release issued Tuesday.

Rubio expressed similar sentiments when talking with Fox News on Wednesday.

“No matter what you think about Ukraine funding, those things should never be one for the other,” he said. “When it comes to taking care of Americans that have been harmed, that should be the priority. I hope the White House backs off of that position.”

FEMA has projected at least a $4 billion deficit with the disaster relief fund. The Biden administration in August proposed a supplemental package to Congress, including $12 million for disaster relief to pay for recent natural disasters like the fire in Maui and now the aftermath of Hurricane Idalia. But in the same spending package, the president sought more than $24 billion in additional funding for Ukraine’s military needs in their battle against Russia.

While Democrats have consistently supported funding the military effort in Ukraine, the GOP has seen more fissures in their ranks.

In May, 11 Republicans in the U.S. Senate opposed Ukraine funding, and last month, 70 House Republicans voted in favor of an amendment to the annual defense bill that would have cut off all U.S. military aid to Ukraine.



If you still support this you can get fricked. Seriously.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 9:10 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148180 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:09 pm to
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Besides, even if you could easily transfer money from one appropriation to another, I can think of several that should come before Ukraine

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We cannot let short-term distractions make us forger that American leadership on the global stage is important and is one of our best long-term security strategies.
get bent Bozo
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
8133 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:10 pm to
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We cannot let short-term distractions make us forger that American leadership on the global stage is important and is one of our best long-term security strategies.


If you can't even clean your own house, how the hell are you going to clean someone else's house?
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:10 pm to
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This has nothing to do with supporting Ukraine.


It shows us where their priorities are. The amount congress allocate in all forms to provoking wars and causing unrest all over the globe is disgusting.

We're paying the pensions of Ukrainians while pensioners are living on the streets in the USA.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:12 pm to
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We cannot let short-term distractions make us forger that American leadership on the global stage is important and is one of our best long-term security strategies.


Ukraine had nothing to do with our security. In fact, our meddling in Ukraine has led to nothing but insecurity for us and Europe.

You are a Muppet
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
12542 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:21 pm to
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How they did that, I don't know


Democrats do what they want to do.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88950 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:24 pm to
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RFK



retire this account and ask chicken to delete it

you are an embarrassment clown
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
11652 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:28 pm to
Your first mistake was trying to explain how government works to this board. These are the same people who think J6 was a peaceful protest and an inside job.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19406 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:29 pm to
Everyone understands that our leader’s priorities are out of wack. Ukraine, Israel, and illegal immigrants should not have priority over our own hurting citizens. You can frame it however you want, but it pisses people off.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16380 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:29 pm to
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My understanding is FEMA interpreted U.S. fiscal law to allow them to give existing relief money to immigrants. How they did that, I don't know because I don't have all the facts.
Then you should just delete your bullshite op and stfu until you have all the facts
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66529 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:31 pm to
If that's how "government works," it's a total failure.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14530 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:33 pm to
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. In other words, whether we are funding Ukraine or not, the problem is Congress didn't appropriate enough to FEMA in the last budget.


K...smart guy...If they did not appropriate enough for FEMA this year..and hurricane and tornado seasons were nothing burgers and did not tax the current FEMA budget til Helene, what exactly did they use the extra money they didn't appropriate properly to FEMA for?
I bet it rhymes with failiens

Hhhhhhmmmmmm?
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88950 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:33 pm to
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These are the same people who think J6 was a peaceful protest


muh armed insurrection!

so much worse than BLM and antifa

moron
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