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re: For Those Blaming Lack of FEMA Funds on Ukraine, A Reminder of How U.S. Fiscal Law Works
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:00 am to idlewatcher
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:00 am to idlewatcher
quote:It is actually much less than 1/3.
Imagine giving those who are actually affected by a severe storm 1/3 of what an illegal nets.
The illegals get $2200 PER MONTH, while the storm victim get a ONE TIME PAYMENT OF $750.
So, this will be the tally for one illegal and one storm victim after one year:
Illegal: $26,400
Storm Victim: $750
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:01 am to 14&Counting
LINK fiscal year starts oct 1 and there is no money?
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:12 am to RFK
Democrats have demonstrated that they’re willing and able to break any laws, subvert any standing procedural to get whatever the hell they want. Whether it’s debt forgiveness for student loans, stacking the supreme court, pushing hell & earth to make Obama care happen or funneling billions of dollars to Ukraine, democrats always seem to find a way. Unless of course. such matters involve border security or emergency relief for citizens. Then it’s everything by the book, no exceptions.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 7:17 am
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:35 am to FLTech
quote:
But they can take money out of FEMA and put into another account for Immigration because that's exactly what the frick they did
FEMA is under DHS. FEMA is funded by DHS. DHS got there new budget/money on 10/1 or Tuesday. FEMA might use all of its funding for the year in 1 month. They will need to take money away from another department in DHS or go to Congress and ask for more money.
If FEMA doesn’t spend their money in a year it doesn’t roll over to the next year. DHS will move that money into another department that is strapped for cash and they will spend it.
Ukraine and illegal immigrants have nothing to do with the money FEMA is spending for Helene.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 7:44 am
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:38 am to RFK
Youre desperately trying to explain why foreigners are more important to Americans to our politicians.
Youre failing.
Youre failing.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:40 am to MizzouBS
quote:
Ukraine and illegal immigrants have nothing to do with the money FEMA is spending for Helene.
The money comes from thin air for both.
There is no reason money cant be found for disaster relief, one of the few things the fed govt should do well.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
There is no reason money cant be found for disaster relief,
Just as I offered a bet days ago about the ultimate hurricane response spending, I was going to offer one (less money) about just this. The bet was that they will pass some emergency spending if there isn't enough for the hurricane response ultimately.
Disclaimer: nowhere is my personal opinion contained within the above prediction. It's just a matter of establishing facts, not perceived proprietary or personal preference (PPPP). Being able to discuss facts without emotionally melting down does not imply or indicate PPPP.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:49 am to RFK
Fact is the US moved money around all the time. Money for Ukraine could easily be used to shore up FEMA. You know this.
Biden admin is trying to buy votes with student loan forgiveness despite the Supreme Court saying they cannot do this.
Billions of dollars earmarked to build EV charging stations across US was spent elsewhere.
Much of the money during Obama designated to rebuild/repair infrastructure went to companies like Solyndra. $500M and 3 years later they went bankrupt.
The list goes on and on and on when it comes to money allocated and where it actually ended up going. You know this. If NY or Pennsylvania was under 2 feet of water FENA coffers would be filled overnight.
Biden admin is trying to buy votes with student loan forgiveness despite the Supreme Court saying they cannot do this.
Billions of dollars earmarked to build EV charging stations across US was spent elsewhere.
Much of the money during Obama designated to rebuild/repair infrastructure went to companies like Solyndra. $500M and 3 years later they went bankrupt.
The list goes on and on and on when it comes to money allocated and where it actually ended up going. You know this. If NY or Pennsylvania was under 2 feet of water FENA coffers would be filled overnight.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:52 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Disclaimer: nowhere is my personal opinion contained within the above prediction. It's just a matter of establishing facts, not perceived proprietary or personal preference (PPPP). Being able to discuss facts without emotionally melting down does not imply or indicate PPPP.
My prediction is fact, not opinion. Classic SFP right there baw.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:53 am to GRTiger
quote:
Disclaimer: nowhere is my personal opinion contained within the above prediction
He presents shite as his opinion, balks when it turns out wrong.
Hes predictable as hell.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:53 am to RFK
quote:
FEMA in the last budget.
Wasn't this some time in the mid-1990's?
So, in my opinion the process is completely broken and all this continued funding through CR is absolute bullshite...
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:54 am to GRTiger
quote:
My prediction is fact, not opinion.
The prediction deals with facts, not PPPP
If there is an emergency funding in the future is a purely factual issue.
I don't see why this is so difficult for you.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
He presents shite as his opinion
A prediction of a factual issue is not an opinion, Rog
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:55 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Of course they will. That's why Mayorkas spent all the damn money in his budget buying immigrant votes. He knew if we got hit, Congress would have to pass emergency funding.
The bet was that they will pass some emergency spending if there isn't enough for the hurricane response ultimately.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:56 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
I don't see why this is so difficult for you.
Meh, this is not sufficiently salty enough for me. Go ahead and get indignant that your takes are not taken seriously.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:58 am to The Maj
quote:
Wasn't this some time in the mid-1990's?
96 or 97, yes. I got into this the last time I waded into these waters. We don't pass budgets for Fedgov anymore. Agencies have budgets, but if there is some issue they usually can get more money in the next round of funding (via CRs) or specific spending bills.
So spending on Ukraine has no impact on DHS/FEMA
However, DHS spending on illegals does impact FEMA reserves (but only if Fedgov does not just issue new spending)
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
There is no reason money cant be found for disaster relief, one of the few things the fed govt should do well.
FEMA works fast
A week after the tornado in Joplin FEMA had a few hundred mobile homes on pads with electric, sewage, and water. It was pretty incredible to see how fast they get things done. They also turned half a mall into Joplin High School for 2,300 students really fast.
FEMA does good work
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:59 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Of course they will. That's why Mayorkas spent all the damn money in his budget buying immigrant votes. He knew if we got hit, Congress would have to pass emergency funding.
100% agreed.
That's why I don't get this meme. I've seen intelligent people who should know better melt as if this won't happen.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 8:02 am to RFK
Hundreds dead, 4 states devastated and entire regions without power
OP:
Let me say this slowly for you:
Ukraine isn’t our problem.
And if you think they haven’t tried every dirty trick in the book for years to redirect funds to fund illegals and Ukraine you are either naive or an actual moron.
Talk to anyone involved with federal contracting. They swept most discretionary contracts and redirected the money to those initiatives. They were pretty open about it.
OP:
quote:
We cannot let short-term distractions
Let me say this slowly for you:
Ukraine isn’t our problem.
And if you think they haven’t tried every dirty trick in the book for years to redirect funds to fund illegals and Ukraine you are either naive or an actual moron.
Talk to anyone involved with federal contracting. They swept most discretionary contracts and redirected the money to those initiatives. They were pretty open about it.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 8:02 am to RFK
“Works”
It don’t.
It don’t.
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