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re: Folks, True Or False? George W Bush Was Just As Destructive As Obama
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:27 pm to Jake_LaMotta
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:27 pm to Jake_LaMotta
W is a nice guy, but the worse president in my lifetime which includes Jimmy Carter. A few highlights:
In charge with the 9-11 attacks - He and Condi were focused on Russia
Started the Iraq War - We put too few resources in Afghanistan and spend 3 trillion, destabilized the entire region, energized Al Queda and created ISIS
Presided over the GREAT Recession - which was the worse financial meltdown since the Great Depression in 1929 I believe.
W was WAAAAAY worse than Obama who inherited all of this shite and had to dig out. In contrast, Trump inherited a percolating economy (more jobs created in Obama's last year vs. Trump's first), an ISIS strategy that was working is exactly the same as what Trump is continuing, and a global economy that has worked it's way out of depression / recession.
In charge with the 9-11 attacks - He and Condi were focused on Russia
Started the Iraq War - We put too few resources in Afghanistan and spend 3 trillion, destabilized the entire region, energized Al Queda and created ISIS
Presided over the GREAT Recession - which was the worse financial meltdown since the Great Depression in 1929 I believe.
W was WAAAAAY worse than Obama who inherited all of this shite and had to dig out. In contrast, Trump inherited a percolating economy (more jobs created in Obama's last year vs. Trump's first), an ISIS strategy that was working is exactly the same as what Trump is continuing, and a global economy that has worked it's way out of depression / recession.
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Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:28 pm to mtntiger
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W did it out of incompetence and a desire to try to get along with the Dems
Stop making excuses.
"There's an old saying in Tennessee, it's probably in Tennessee, I know it's in Texas. Fool me once shame on, shame on you? Fool me, can't get fooled again." W.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:29 pm to Jake_LaMotta
GWB was worse than Obama. People will realize the depth of lies/corruption soon enough.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:30 pm to Salmon
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, if not worse
Impossible
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:37 pm to troyt37
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blame the conflict in the ME on Bush
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scores of UN resolution violations
Since when do we GAF about the UN and subsequently go to war over their violations?
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violations of the peace terms from GW1
Violations of terms happens all the time and do not justify war.
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94% of democrats were parroting what the administration was saying
When shite goes south you blame the boss, not the employees. W was the President of the United States and if he didn't want to go to war then it wouldn't of mattered what the dems wanted.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:37 pm to Jake_LaMotta
True, albeit in different ways. Bush did so in the conventional way via death, cateclism, war, and tyrannical abuse of the rule of law. Obama simply took Bush's foundation and expanded upon it, taking the fight directly into our culture, our education, and our concepts of self. Bush assaulted our physical nation, Obama dismantled our psyche.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:39 pm to Jake_LaMotta
Absolutely True.
Who knows how many of the conspiracy theories are true...but we know for sure one of them isn't a conspiracy theory anymore, and that is "weapons of mass destruction".
Who knows how many of the conspiracy theories are true...but we know for sure one of them isn't a conspiracy theory anymore, and that is "weapons of mass destruction".
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:43 pm to Jake_LaMotta
False, Bush was far worse.
9/11
Patriot Act
Afghan war
Iraq War
Great Recession
Hell, even Nixon was worse than Obama.
Nixon Shock
Oil embargo
Inflation
Vietnam
Bretton-Woods
Watergate
I don't think you know what a disaster is. It's not your fault, our country has been so stable for so long now, younger people just can't remember how bad it can actually get.
9/11
Patriot Act
Afghan war
Iraq War
Great Recession
Hell, even Nixon was worse than Obama.
Nixon Shock
Oil embargo
Inflation
Vietnam
Bretton-Woods
Watergate
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Obama was a disaster there is really no other way of saying it.
I don't think you know what a disaster is. It's not your fault, our country has been so stable for so long now, younger people just can't remember how bad it can actually get.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:46 pm to Jake_LaMotta
You could go as far as to say the CIA was started by the Bush family and have guided US foreign policy to profit from war and drugs.
All you have to do is look at why we have started every war we have since Vietnam....
Vietnam-propaganda-poppy-drug smuggling
Iraq-propaganda-oil-Haliburton, etc.
Afganistan-poppy production up 10x-heroin addiction out of control all the while selling war material for two decades now.
All you have to do is look at why we have started every war we have since Vietnam....
Vietnam-propaganda-poppy-drug smuggling
Iraq-propaganda-oil-Haliburton, etc.
Afganistan-poppy production up 10x-heroin addiction out of control all the while selling war material for two decades now.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 2:08 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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With what policies? What legislation? Obama did little to nothing in his whole tenure. I will say his crackdown on Predatory lending and new regulations for Credit Cards etc was something of value he did (which isn't saying much) but that had zero to do with the recession.
Obama had the benefit of basically negative interest rates for a significant portion of his time in office and still couldn't inspire any meaningful economic growth
From -2.8% to to 2.9% isn't meaningful?
Posted on 6/14/18 at 2:31 pm to Jake_LaMotta
Barry was much worse. Bush inherited a debt of $5.7 trillion and increased it to $11 Trillion. Barry took it up to $20 trillion and retarded the growth of the US. Barry set back race relations, increased illegal aliens and put the FBI where it is today. He tried his best to destroy this country.
I wasn't a Bush fan but he was an american, he was just a rino. He wasn't a muslim like barry.
I wasn't a Bush fan but he was an american, he was just a rino. He wasn't a muslim like barry.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 2:47 pm to Jake_LaMotta
False.
Bush was not a communist. He did not appoint two brainless left wing radical bitches to the Supreme Court.
Bush was not a communist. He did not appoint two brainless left wing radical bitches to the Supreme Court.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 3:05 pm to Jake_LaMotta
W is by far the worst ever 16 years of ware as the result of outright misinformation that he knew was false and the resulting unrest in the ME and surge in Russian influence around the globe is a direct result of Bush policies......not to mention refusing to act on an economic collapse other than to save the investor class and it ain’t even close.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 3:25 pm to Jake_LaMotta
All sucked after Reagan. Until now
Posted on 6/14/18 at 3:27 pm to Jake_LaMotta
We are past Bush. This is now Trump's party. All for the better 
Posted on 6/14/18 at 3:27 pm to bmy
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Obama helped pull us through a recession
By increasing taxes and more regulations?
Posted on 6/14/18 at 3:55 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Vietnam
Blaming Nixon for Vietnam? huh...
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I don't think you know what a disaster is. It's not your fault, our country has been so stable for so long now, younger people just can't remember how bad it can actually get.
So by this you only started paying attention in the 70's...young whippersnapper.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 4:00 pm to Jake_LaMotta
Bush was too busy trying to get along with people who never had any intention of getting along with him.
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 6/14/18 at 4:04 pm to 4LSU2
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GWB did what he had to do
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do think he did an excellent job his first four years.
He "had" to sign the Patriot Act? He "had" to start 2 endless wars?
Posted on 6/14/18 at 4:17 pm to Chuker
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Since when do we GAF about the UN and subsequently go to war over their violations?
Since Iraq was firing off SAMs at our pilots in the no-fly zones, and paying families of terrorists who killed Americans?
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Violations of terms happens all the time and do not justify war.
Depends on the violations, doesn't it?
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When shite goes south you blame the boss, not the employees. W was the President of the United States and if he didn't want to go to war then it wouldn't of mattered what the dems wanted.
The only fault I find in Bush's execution if Iraq is letting it become Vietnam, with the leftists using the horrors of war to determine our course of action. We could have been in and out of Iraq in short order had we not been trying to satisfy leftists and the media.
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