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re: Fitting that John Roberts puts a bullet into the head of the USA on its 250th birthday
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:51 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:51 pm to onmymedicalgrind
I fully appreciate that you think you’re arguing for Western civilization.
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:51 pm to Pettifogger
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You're a Christian, multi-generation Texas family holding out in Plano as the neighborhood you taught your kids to ride bikes in becomes an Indian or Pakistani enclave. Your kids will do fine. They have money. They're smart. Is that all there is to it?
They can probably still rides their bikes too.
You sound like you have a bit too much free time.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:51 pm to udtiger
You apparently have little faith in the greatness of America.-
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:52 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:
They can probably still rides their bikes too.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:53 pm to VOR
The greatness of America isn’t a birthright.
It flows from principles.
When the principles cease(d) to govern, the greatness recedes.
It flows from principles.
When the principles cease(d) to govern, the greatness recedes.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:53 pm to WeeWee
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until they come off the crazy train.
umm, i don’t think that’s ever going to happen. Did you see who got elected in NY this past weekend? They are going all in on communism at this point
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:55 pm to Taxing Authority
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Whose fault is that?
You have an answer. Let’s hear it.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:56 pm to TrueTiger
Wong Kim Ark ruled that every baby born within the territory of the United States is a citizen unless they meet one of four exceptions:
1. They are the child of a foreign head of state or diplomat,
2. They are born on a foreign ship in common waters
3. Born to an invading hostile army occupying territory by force
4. They’re the child of sovereign native tribes
These exceptions were then carved into a federal statute.
What the court did today was not only uphold Wong Kim Ark, but clarify that these 4 exceptions are the ONLY ones that can ever apply. Kavanaugh’s concurrence argued that the list of exceptions could be increased via statute, but that was not what the majority held. Wong Kim Ark wasn’t just upheld today, it was expanded to abrogate Congressional power. That is significant.
1. They are the child of a foreign head of state or diplomat,
2. They are born on a foreign ship in common waters
3. Born to an invading hostile army occupying territory by force
4. They’re the child of sovereign native tribes
These exceptions were then carved into a federal statute.
What the court did today was not only uphold Wong Kim Ark, but clarify that these 4 exceptions are the ONLY ones that can ever apply. Kavanaugh’s concurrence argued that the list of exceptions could be increased via statute, but that was not what the majority held. Wong Kim Ark wasn’t just upheld today, it was expanded to abrogate Congressional power. That is significant.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:56 pm to the808bass
It is pretty nice, ngl
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:58 pm to onmymedicalgrind
It is easier if you don’t do a lot of introspection, I’m sure.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm not even sure what argument is even being made or position is being held. Kind of gets to the point I was making.
by whom?
My argument is that we're washing away the foundations of the institutions/systems that the "America is still great" arguments are premised upon (primarily economic). Thus, you're left with two issues that matter to me:
1) The systems and institutions won't work as well when being used by people/cultures/ideas they're not designed for. In other words, eventually the removal of load bearing supports will become a more practical problem (I think this is already well underway).
2) The Americans who built and sustained such things are being intentionally marginalized via dilution. The result will be competing and weakened cultures trying to govern as one, with often absurd results, and a very thin overall culture. This will directly impact quality of life for almost everyone (including minority populations who saw flourishing under the majority), and it will make the country more susceptible to fracture and less resilient. In some places, you will see complete cultural supplanting with objectively worse outcomes, like neighborhoods in Minneapolis, parts of Michigan (and countless examples in Europe).
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:01 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:
They can probably still rides their bikes too.
You sound like you have a bit too much free time.
Ah yes
With countrymen like this...
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:01 pm to udtiger
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:02 pm to the808bass
And alot more fun if you aren't mentally paralyzed by fear
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:03 pm to Pettifogger
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My argument is that we're washing away the foundations of the institutions/systems that the "America is still great" arguments are premised upon (primarily economic).
For the record, it's more than just economics (and I separated economics from my response to you).
quote:
1) The systems and institutions won't work as well when being used by people/cultures/ideas they're not designed for. In other words, eventually the removal of load bearing supports will become a more practical problem (I think this is already well underway).
Who, specifically, is this addressed to? Which groups threaten use of the institutions in that way? Latinos are of Western Culture from countries with those same institutions, and Indians come from a hybrid that isn't Western but relies on those institutions (from its colonial past).
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The Americans who built and sustained such things are being intentionally marginalized via dilution.
Again, who is this population, specifically?
You keep doing this thing where you make grandiose arguments with broad, undefined language and when asked for specifics say things like this
quote:
I don't have a vehement argument as to the objective negatives of Indian culture. I do know it's not Texas culture. I know that India, where it originates, is filled with glaring faults.
But I don't think Texans have to answer that question to your/someone else's satisfaction, TBH.
And I am not being pedantic. Potential misunderstanding of stances can lead to some very pathological and nasty strawmen, which I am intentionally trying to avoid.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:04 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Me posting on here for a bit doesn’t equate with me being paralyzed with fear.
What makes a culture?
What makes a culture?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
Who the frick hires you as legal representation? The amount of hours you spend posting on anonymous message boards during core working hours would suggest you either 1. have no clients or 2. you neglect the clients you do have.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:07 pm to udtiger
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John Roberts
Will be remembered fondly by Marxist academic historians that label him " Above The Fray"
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Latinos are of Western Culture from countries with those same institutions
lol. You think the K’iche are Latinos.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Who, specifically, is this addressed to? Which groups threaten use of the institutions in that way? Latinos are of Western Culture from countries with those same institutions, and Indians come from a hybrid that isn't Western but relies on those institutions (from its colonial past).
Non-Europeans. Some have more compatibility with others - all probably strain the bounds of cultural compatibility to some extent.
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Again, who is this population, specifically?
Those of European descent. Others that have fully assimilated.
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You keep doing this thing where you make grandiose arguments with broad, undefined language and when asked for specifics say things like this
This isn't in good faith. You didn't ask anything that I failed to respond to.
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