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re: Fetterman : he's a fascinating man, and his wife is lovely … I couldn't be more impressed.

Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:54 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:54 am to
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Whitmer is much closer to Fetterman than Newsome.

Shapiro even moreso.


If Shapiro wins the Democrat nomination in 2028 and goes up against JD Vance in the general election, Vance will win Michigan for obvious reasons.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46096 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:55 am to
You are an idiot, as usual. She was cast by the dems for a recently redistricted seat against an absolute turd incumbent. Literally any blue candidate the NY party bosses would have thrown their weight behind wins that seat. She was working at a Taqueria when she declared for Christ sakes.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46096 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:56 am to
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Vance will win Michigan for obvious reasons.


Isnt it sad?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46096 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:58 am to
Trump and Hillary look like Fabio and Giselle next to John Fetterman.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:59 am to
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Trump knows Fetterman is probably the only reasonable Dem left! Which is very ironic!


Check his votes.

Ignore what he says.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:59 am to
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Who would have ever thought John Fetterman would be a voice of reason?


I have always seen Fetterman as a brave guy, especially after his debate with Dr Oz. I was just pissed that his wife allowed him to do this.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162712 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:00 am to
Shapiro is not heralded in PA like many think. He won because of mail in ballots, and Mastriano was demonized by the Rs and the Ds.

No one wins in 2028 being inauthentic. The dems will ignore moderacy again. Shapiro is very left of center.

They won't let Fettermans moderacy act in.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:02 am
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17694 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:04 am to
I pray the only thing done is the imprisonment or death penalties for those responsible for gooooooooberment corruption, the coup, or treasonous activity.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:07 am to
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Trump isn't a fiscal conservative, which we fiscal conservatives all know.


Yet he brought in Elon and Vivek for doge to cut, he doesn’t want major wars which is fiscally conservative and he wants a strong economy.

Tell us more how he isn’t fiscally conservative without mentioning Covid.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:08 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466161 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:08 am to
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Tell us more how he isn’t financially conservative without mentioning Covid.




Look at the chart for Trump BEFORE the WHO declares a pandemic line.

Also, his own agenda for 2024 proposes a lot of spending/government expansion.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:11 am to
List those expansions.

Everything that costs will have other effects such as a border wall may be expensive but it is cheaper than millions of illegals. So let’s keep dancing here

Also thanks for pointing out Covid is the only example in that chart. Along with massive interest kicking in from previous administrations
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:12 am
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
25753 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:14 am to
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He votes like a leftist though.

His messaging has moved to the middle, right along with polling in PA. Fetterman still votes with the far left 100% of the time.
Posted by Tiger at Law
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
3005 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:15 am to
Power of the purse lies with Congress.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466161 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:16 am to
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Also thanks for pointing out Covid is the only example in that chart.

It's not. Trump made no changes to the rate of government spending expansion PRE-Covid. He just really blew it up after Covid.

quote:

Everything that costs will have other effects such as a border wall may be expensive but it is cheaper than millions of illegals.

Spending more on the military and protecting SS/Medicare alone basically prevent any progress towards neutral spending or a deficit. Both are in his Agenda47
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:22 am to
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It's not. Trump made no changes to the rate of government spending expansion PRE-Covid. He just really blew it up after Covid.


Again I said without mentioning Covid and that’s the major part

quote:

Spending more on the military and protecting SS/Medicare alone basically prevent any progress towards neutral spending or a deficit. Both are in his Agenda47


You have no idea how the govt or military works. The military will always be a larger budget the next year because of cost and technology advancements. Every year military gets a pay raise so it’s going to go up. The military also works on a use it or lose it budget where training will always drive costs.

Keep thinking you know everything though lawyer …
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56941 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:39 am to
Is this another leftist that has said a few words in agreement with Trump, so the MAGA crowds are going to blindly agree with him despite his recent history?
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
24600 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:41 am to
Look, he wants to take your guns away. Never trust anyone who wants your guns.

He can play nice all he wants but its his votes that matter.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33359 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:46 am to
I cant believe the ronbois are still weeping over Trump. Its clear he thinks way over thier heads. This isnt about Trump agreeing with Fetterman on DIM policies, this is solely about Trump massaging Fettermans ego. All you have to read was the lovely wife part. Because Trump knows who wears the shorts in the family

Dont be surprised that Fetterman ends up propping up most of Trumps nominees, and putting the target on "Republicans" who wont.

I mean what good are they to us, when even DIMs are voting with Trump
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
24600 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:48 am to
Fetterman is not based.

“I’ve always supported a ban to the assault rifle ownership,” Lt. Gov. Fetterman stated on April 11. “We should not have weapons of war in the hands of civilians.”

He’s a Redcoat.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31795 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:53 am to
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He is exactly who Dems should be preparing for a Presidential run, but they won't. They will stick with failures like Newsome or Whitmer.




i enjoyed his Rogan interview and it definitely humanized him, but he can't have a discussion with somebody without a reading device. He has literal brain farts.

They aren't going to nominate somebody that has a brain malfunction if the words aren't right in front of them during debate or speech...


wait...
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