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re: Explain the Democrat party switch myth like I'm 5

Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:29 am to
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:29 am to
I highly recommend searching PragerU's video on it. Quite informative.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:31 am to
The switch is complete nonsense.

The Democrats didn't elect their first black senator until 1993.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4576 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:31 am to
The best way I can describe it is this-

If the parties truly switched in the late 60s after the Civil Right and Voting Rights Acts were passed, why did it take every Southern State another 20 years to elect Republican governors? Wouldn't the governor's mansions switched parties in the next election?
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
17601 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:54 am to
Dammit. Don't you know that a very small amount of dems switched to the gop..and a few rinos switched to the dem party.. so that means that the entirety of the Democrat history, before that... now belongs to the Republicans, and the history of the Republicans belong to the Democrats.

It must be nice to pretend that every fricking vile deed done by the Democrat party shouldn't be held over the heads of Democrats.... but Republicans instead. Those motherfrickers created the klan. They fought Lincoln every step of the way when it came to freeing slaves. They vehemently rejected giving black people and women the right to vote.

They are a party of evil. The tactics they are using now, are the same fricking tactics they used during their klan days. Intimidation and violence. False flags. Their targets used to be black people who weren't voting Democrat, and white people who weren't voting Democrat. Now, their targets are black people not voting Democrat and white people not voting Democrat.

Back during the dem klan, if they didn't like a black person... they'd lie and claim that the black dude did something he didn't do.. just so the mob would attack the black dude.

They were protected by that era's media, local politicians and national politicians. For a party that smugly claims to have"switched", they utilize every dirty trick of their predecessors.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75393 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:56 am to
I mean I think People can pretend all they want but it’s pretty clear in the 1960 the Dems started pushing civil rights and the south started voting republicans/segregationist candidates in national elections.

Barry Goldwater only 6 states. Arizona his home state and 5 Deep South States.

That’s not a demographic thing. That’s a voting issue thing.

Looking back it’s not like all Democrats were racist. The party essentially split in 1860.

The 1960 Civil Rights Act passed a Dem dominated House and Senate. And the 1964 Civil Right Act. With a Safe majority of Dem congressmen voting for both.

As some point the Dems stopped being for small government (Jackson destroyed the national bank) and republicans started being the party of “states rights”

This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 10:15 am
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:40 am to
Very good explanation
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75393 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:53 am to
quote:

If the parties truly switched in the late 60s after the Civil Right and Voting Rights Acts were passed, why did it take every Southern State another 20 years to elect Republican governors? Wouldn't the governor's mansions switched parties in the next election?


Southern Democrat’s could still win on a local level but the national party wasn’t putting up southern candidates.

Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95699 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:55 am to
It’s a losing battle - I’m always surprised that folks on the right think that the party history will be an effective argument
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:57 am to
It’s an appealing argument to boomers and middling IQ types because they don’t grasp the fact this is only reinforces the left’s frame/narrative.
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
8914 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:00 am to
I told an acquaintance of mine, “remember when you switched from being a KC fan to being a Broncos fan?” He said, “what? I hate the Broncos.”

Exactly.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
171659 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:06 am to
The South didn’t really switch to Republican until 2000 - 36 years after the media’s so called switch because Southerners are racist and didn’t like the civil rights act. The South still most went for Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. Abortion was the real issue that drove the South to the Republicans in 2000 but the media won’t tell you that dirty little secret because it’s easier and hits harder to lie and say they all switched in 1964 because they’re racist.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
11887 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:08 am to
"I’ll have those [n-words] voting Democratic for 200 years"
- LBJ
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17643 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:12 am to
The Democrat Party came to the realization that, rather than show their utter disdain for blacks, it was more beneficial to pretend to help them in exchange for their votes. That's really the only switch.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:17 am to
It's a complete myth

To believe it, you have to COMPLETELY ignore all other politics and look ONLY at race and even then, be a little retarded.

The problem with the whole switch thing is you have to pretend to not notice that FDR-LBJ-TODAY Democrats are policy brethren.

You have to somehow believe that a bunch of formerly small government Republicans who largely opposed things like the New Deal and the Great Society...……."switched" and effectively became Chuck Schumer.

Meanwhile, a bunch of racist assed Democrats who supported the ND and GS, "switched" and suddenly became basically, Newt Gingrich.

It's complete hogwash
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:17 am to
The Democrat Party became more and more leftist, especially on the social issues and on National Security issues. Two of the three pillars of the Republican Party. As the south became more wealthy and developed a middle class the third pillar economic freedom became valued as well.

There were also local issues in different states that made Republicans appealing. In Louisiana Dave Treen wins because of corruption within the Edwards administration. But Louisiana had always historically switched between populists and reformers. And it still does that today.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:19 am to
quote:

As some point the Dems stopped being for small government (Jackson destroyed the national bank) and republicans started being the party of “states rights”
Um...….for the ENTIRE Duration of the supposed "switch", the Dems have been FDR's love children.

Reaching in to Andrew Jackson to try and play your silliness is just absurd.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
81997 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:20 am to
quote:

"I’ll have those [n-words] voting Democratic for 200 years"
- LBJ




Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9122 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:21 am to
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Someone much smarter than I am explaining it here.
Carol Swain needs more FaceTime in prime-time.

Her resume/ life achievements make me wonder what I've been doing. Raising kids and having a productive job doesn't scratch the surface of what she's accomplished
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4074 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:22 am to
I asked this question to one of my history professors in college.

He responded with the conservative elements of the Democratic party started to move to the Republican party while the progressive elements of the Republican party started to move to the Democratic party after the Kennedy assassination (he just used that time as a reference, he didn't say that's what caused it.) I believe the election of 1964 was the first that the majority of dixie states went red. Thus we have two sides that are vastly different from each other.

This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 11:37 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25860 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:31 am to
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It’s a losing battle - I’m always surprised that folks on the right think that the party history will be an effective argument


Truth is truth. Robert Byrd, Russell Long, William Fullbright, Hale Boggs, Al Gore Sr., and Richard Russell were life long democrats. The record speaks for itself. One party had Lincoln, the other eschewed Stephen Douglas for John Breckinridge.
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