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re: Exit polls released out of Germany
Posted on 2/23/25 at 3:28 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 2/23/25 at 3:28 pm to hawgfaninc
Sadly the “conservative” Christian Democrats will work closer with communists than with the afd
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 3:31 pm to Narax
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Else CDU will need to form a government with the left.
That’s exactly what they're going to do. CSU swore never to work with AfD.
Nothing changed in Germany today.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 3:56 pm to Geauxldilocks
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Amazing how people who have been subjected to Marxist tyranny
That’s the thing though
West Germany is more damaged today than East Germany is
And this is not an endorsement of Communism, but they somehow did less damage to the culture than we did.
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 2/23/25 at 4:01 pm to Lima Whiskey
The odd thing is the democratic areas have all become commies and the areas that actually had to suffer communism become very pro freedom. Democracy succeeds so well it eventually becomes commie type and communism fails so bad that it actually produces democracy. So democracy gets so good it collapses under its good times and the commies are so bad that whoever survives its fall is the most freedom loving people around
It’s essentially the circle of tough times create tough men, tough men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create tough times.
Time is a circle
It’s essentially the circle of tough times create tough men, tough men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create tough times.
Time is a circle
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 2/23/25 at 4:23 pm to hawgfaninc
It’s not good. The AFD needed the majority. The other political groups have already vowed to not for a coalition with the AFD. So the AFD will be the minority opposition and won’t be able to get much done.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 4:40 pm to Nosevens
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CDU would align with AFD as that’s an overwhelming connection vs anything else. AFD is capturing a large portion of seats .
The CDU has already openly stated they would refuse to work with the AFD.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 5:07 pm to TDTOM
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What does this mean?
It means nothing except the chancellor will be from CDU instead of SFD. Those 2 will form the government when the 2 groups right under 5% get cut out. They were the last government as well
Posted on 2/23/25 at 5:11 pm to northshorebamaman
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Yeah, it's pretty obviously divided between former East and West Germany. Be willing to bet their election maps have been mostly divided in the same way since reunification.
Good point but not surprising. Another interesting set of maps. The states of the CSA and the US 2024 election map. The same with the exception of occupied Va.
Interesting
Posted on 2/23/25 at 5:59 pm to Red_and_black
Posted on 2/23/25 at 6:04 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
Posted on 2/23/25 at 6:36 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
The old East Germany should secede from West Germany based on the unwillingness of political parties (primarily dominant in West German) to abide by the democratic will of the people by refusing to bring them into the government coalition. I think you'd see an AfD and BSW alliance on this issue in places like Saxony and Thuringia. Both are populist movements.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 6:38 pm to SCLibertarian
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Saxony
Don't frick with the Saxons. Well, at one time they were bad arse: but I do agree with your point.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 6:39 pm to hawgfaninc
Hope and change
Posted on 2/23/25 at 6:40 pm to SCLibertarian
US should publicly vow support for the German conservative opposition and publicly fund them.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 6:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm pretty sure EVERYONE will refuse to work with AfD.
This is great for AfD. Germany is going down the shitter the next two years regardless of who is in power. Now CDU and SPD get all the blame. They’ll do nothing about immigration either. AfD will be free of any blame and get to come in as the savior in the next election. Germans will eventually get tired of their children being knifed to death and their women raped. Or maybe not and they are all just euro pussies.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 6:53 pm to hawgfaninc
Can anyone break down each party on a range of maga conservative to far left loon?
Posted on 2/23/25 at 7:08 pm to LSUGrrrl
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Can anyone break down each party on a range of maga conservative to far left loon?
AFD - German MAGA
The AfD is Eurosceptic, and opposes immigration into Germany, especially Muslim immigration
CDU/CSU - CSU Part - Reagan Republican
It differs from the CDU by being somewhat more conservative in social matters, following Catholic social teaching. The CSU is considered the de facto successor of the Weimar-era Catholic Bavarian People's Party.
CDU/CSU - CDU Part - Pre Reagan Republican
CDU references to the "dominant culture" imply "tolerance and living together" The party supports a business-friendly adaptation of the European Green Deal, the CDU commits itself to European integration and a strong relation with the United States.
SPD - Modern Democrats
The coordinated social market economy should be strengthened and its output should be distributed fairly. The party sees that economic system as necessary in order to ensure the affluence of the entire population.
The SPD also supports a welfare state.
Greens - AOC Bernie
Enough Said
The Left - Chairman Mao
FDP - Libertarians
BSW - Mike Huckabee and Bernie Sanders had a baby. I know... weird.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 7:28 pm to hawgfaninc
Simply, Germany has fallen to Islam. One by one each Western culture is being taken over by that cancer. Even UAE has banned their extremists.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 7:28 pm to TDTOM
quote:Trump effect!
What does this mean?
Posted on 2/23/25 at 7:33 pm to TDTOM
Unfortunately not much. The illiberal “pro democracy” fans have already conspired to block them from participating in the government, even though they are the 2nd largest political party. Political parties a fraction of their size will hold more power
The US should label them an authoritarian country, with applicable sanctions, if they refuse to let the will of the people have a say.
The center right party that won, won in large part because they adopted some of the anti illegal migrant stances of the AfD
Only the AfD could save Germany. Its a shame what 20 years of uncontrolled levels of migrants have done to Europe
The US should label them an authoritarian country, with applicable sanctions, if they refuse to let the will of the people have a say.
The center right party that won, won in large part because they adopted some of the anti illegal migrant stances of the AfD
Only the AfD could save Germany. Its a shame what 20 years of uncontrolled levels of migrants have done to Europe
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