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re: Executive Order banning Big Wall Street from buying up single-family homes

Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:58 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:58 am to
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But assigning the term "free" to a manipulated market is contrary.


I'm arguing for a more free (aka less government involvement) economy, which I have for 20 years. There is nothing contrary about my takes.

The 180s from people who claimed to be capitalists for years are noted, however. I can't help so many people have switched gears and support big government and government involvement in the market while also claiming to be "conservative". They changed. I didn't.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:12 pm to
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You mispelled Nimrod.

Geez, you literally misspelled “tridents” as…
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Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:18 pm to
Admittedly AI, but here are some key trends...I think many in here are both overestimating the volume of homes bought/held by institutional investors and in their thinking that these folks are somehow immune to the effects of the broader real estate market. If they truly could manipulate the market to their advantage, they would rarely, if ever, take losses.

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Key Trends for Institutional Investors (2025–2026):

Reduced Activity: Institutional purchases have fallen faster than the overall market, as high costs and interest rates make it harder to justify acquisitions.

Localized Losses: In early 2026, some investors were forced to sell homes at a loss, particularly in over-exposed markets like Phoenix (30.7% of investor sales), Las Vegas (28%), and Jacksonville (20.9%).

Shift to Net Sellers: Major investors have pivoted from acquiring to selling to manage portfolio performance, with some firms seeing a 90% reduction in purchase activity since 2022.

Performance vs. Risk: While some portfolios struggle with high debt costs, others are holding assets in high-demand areas. However, for many, the "juice isn't worth the squeeze" due to maintenance costs, eviction risks, and low liquidity in a slow market.

The Shift to Smaller Investors:

While large institutional players (350+ homes) have slowed down, they still hold a significant, albeit reduced, share of the market (6.6% in 2024–2025). Smaller "mom-and-pop" investors, who own fewer than 10 homes, have expanded their presence, accounting for over 60% of all investor purchases, stepping into the market as institutional buying has retreated
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:27 pm to
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I think many in here are both overestimating the volume of homes bought/held by institutional investors

I think you are correct. It’s one of the silliest controversies I’ve seen. What if Trump issued an EO saying big companies could not own fast food restaurants?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:38 pm to
Government intervention always leads to unintended consequences. It's been proven over and over and over. I'm not a realtor, economist, or institutional investor, but I would wager if we suddenly banned large investors from buying homes we'd tank the market pretty much overnight. If they cannot acquire "new to them" homes to manage their portfolio over time, they'll just bail.

I also think the original quote of "people live in houses, not corporations" was a bit of a miss too. I get the narrative he's trying for, but people live in houses even if they're owned by corporations.

More AI overview reinforcing what I said above, this specific to where I live.

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As of early 2026, institutional investors (defined as owning 100+ homes) own a small portion of the Charleston, SC, market, with a roughly 1.6% to 3% share in local counties.

While some reports highlighted high overall investment in the Southeast, large institutional ownership remains low compared to total housing stock.

Key Data Points on Charleston Investor Activity:

Ownership Share: In the Charleston MSA, institutional investors own roughly 1.6% of single-family homes, with localized concentrations of 3.0% in Berkeley County and 2.1% in Dorchester County.

Investor Type: Small, local investors are far more prevalent, with many national reports highlighting that smaller, non-institutional investors (fewer than 11 homes) make up roughly 90% of all investor-owned homes.

Trends: As of 2026, institutional investors are increasingly focusing on building new rental communities rather than purchasing existing homes, often selling older inventory to individuals.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:18 pm to
This is economic malfeasance, and Trump knows it. He is doing it because the voting public are morons and he expects they will like this and reward republicans in the midterms.

“People live in houses, not corporations”?

People live in apartments, too. Should we therefore prevent companies from owning apartments?
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 3:18 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:47 pm to
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The opposite is happening, and has been for years. These institutional investors are taking HUGE losses on their RE investments, currently. RE and AI are busting the private credit bubble, too.
You are living in fantasy land.

Institutional investors, receive steady rental income over time. They concomitantly use the law (government manipulation) for tax advantage. At the same time, they do not have the risk of sudden life change (layoffs, family needs, etc.) driving forced sales. That, in and of itself, is a tremendous advantage.

Further, by squeezing market inventory, institutional investors drive prices up on individual properties. In the instance of a bubble, they have the resources to wait it out. If they do sell, they can register it at a capital loss to offset capital gains. Theirs is a different world compared with individual buyers.

Their actions, force, middle class buyers into rental situations, as opposed to the "American dream" of homeownership. As opposed to GenY which often elected to avoid homeownership, GenZ is not so inclined and are interested in homeownership, but affordability is now prohibitive.

I'm surprised, given your interest in the matter, you'd not be aware of those issues.
Posted by AUauditor
Georgia
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:55 pm to
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Boomers paying much lower property tax due to laws favoring them and outbidding young men and women for housing with cash offers, preventing them from starting families is a far bigger problem than what Wall Street is doing


Actually, a lot of it is those people with big salaries leaving the communist states and being able to pay cash, outbidding someone who needs to get a loan for all or part of their purchase.
Posted by Phil Shifley
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:25 pm to
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Boomers paying much lower property tax due to laws favoring them and outbidding young men and women for housing with cash offers, preventing them from starting families is a far bigger problem than what Wall Street is doing


Wtf does that word salad actually mean?

It's a bold claim, care to enlighten is on the area that have property tax laws that favor boomers?

FYI, I'm not a boomer but open to looking into moving if such a utopia actually existed.
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:37 pm to
I have no problem with this but the article is very hyperbolic. Certainly some markets are more affected than others, but large institutional investors make up around 1% of the housing market. “Wall Street” could sell every home they own and it wouldn’t make a dent in the overall housing inventory. I guess if you’re desperate to buy in Atlanta (or a few other metros) then this is a wonderful thing…
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:38 pm to
While I 100% agree with Pres Trump's position about stopping large hedge funds and other mega corporations from buying single family residences en masse, I don't like using Executive Orders to create laws bypassing congress.

To me that opens the door for the next Barry Obama or Joe Biden to do the same thing.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:48 pm to
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I'm arguing for a more free (aka less government involvement) economy, which I have for 20 years. There is nothing contrary about my takes.
There actually is. Your take is either contrarian, or very naïve.

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:55 pm to
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I don't like using Executive Orders to create laws bypassing congress.

To me that opens the door for the next Barry Obama or Joe Biden to do the same thing.
100%!

Congress SHOULD be doing this.

Congress has elected, of its own accord, to be completely feckless for three decades. The exception is one singular instance in 2009 when, FILIBUSTER PROOF, it passed the ACA. Even then, the ACA should have been ruled as unconstitutional, based on its stupid, stupid language.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:58 pm to
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Congress has elected, of its own accord, to be completely feckless for three decades.


Blame the voters. Because this ruling by EO sucks.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:00 pm to
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The 180s from people who claimed to be capitalists for years are noted
Read Sorkin's "1929."
Your take on capitalism would be a 100% match with "Sunshine Charley."
Posted by Nole Man
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:04 pm to
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“Homes are for people, not corporations.”


I agree with this statement and the order. However, it's range and practicality need to be discussed further.

So Who Are "The Big Guys"

If you added it all up, institutional investors (typically defined as those with 1,000+ homes, like Blackstone for example) own roughly 450,000–600,000 single-family homes nationwide — less than 1% of the total U.S. stock (~86–92 million homes) and only about 3% of the single-family rental segment, which is dominated by small “mom-and-pop” landlords.

Even if both the executive order and the bill take effect, the national impact could be modest. Large institutions hold only an estimated 1–3% of single-family rentals, so these steps alone likely won’t move prices much. Affordability still rises or falls on supply, zoning, and local permitting.

So, the actual impact is likely to be:

• Current portfolios stay intact—there’s no mandate to sell homes already owned.
• Smaller landlords and mom-and-pop buyers are mostly unaffected.
• Investors could still buy with cash or private financing—just without government-backed boosts.
• Enforcement would hinge on penalties, but purchases may be funneled through LLCs or affiliates.

Step in the right direction if fully implemented, but impact will be negligible to the average homeowner in terms of moving the pricing needle.


Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:12 pm to
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Blame the voters.
No.
I'll place blame exactly where it lies, as I always do by the way.

The blame lies with the same F-wads who were elected to do a job. If someone elects a person to do x-y-z, but never a-b-c, and as soon as the person gets to DC, he never does either, that is on the liar. It is not on the folks he lied to.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:23 pm to
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No.
I'll place blame exactly where it lies, as I always do by the way.


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Here’s the paradox: despite this anger, U.S. congressional incumbents almost never lose. In the November 2024 general election, a year defined by anti-incumbent fervor, 95% of incumbents nationwide who ran for re-election won their races. For members of the U.S. Congress specifically, the rate was even higher, hovering between 95% and 98%.

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Congress as a whole has hit a record-low approval rating of 10%, with 86% disapproving, according to the latest Gallup poll The Hill.


Voters are lazy, dont educate themselvs and are easily duped.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8447 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:27 pm to
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I have no problem with this but the article is very hyperbolic. Certainly some markets are more affected than others, but large institutional investors make up around 1% of the housing market. “Wall Street” could sell every home they own and it wouldn’t make a dent in the overall housing inventory. I guess if you’re desperate to buy in Atlanta (or a few other metros) then this is a wonderful thing…


Back in 2008 foreign investors were purchasing lots of 100-200 homes at a time through a mortgage broker that I know...it was a rather large dent.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
27236 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:50 pm to
Liberals are so dumb. Capitalism has thousands of laws and constantly adding them.

Now every time a guide rail is added to the free market to prevent monopolies, liberals chirp in calling it communism. You have no idea how retarded you sound. Just complete fools.
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