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re: Excess deaths and sickness now is COVID’s fault - signed The Covidians
Posted on 1/23/23 at 8:58 am to crazy4lsu
Posted on 1/23/23 at 8:58 am to crazy4lsu
quote:You can be skeptical all you like but it's because I love science that this is so damned infuriating.
Okay. Regardless, nothing is going to change even though it should. If that resigns you to fatalism, I'm skeptical about your declarations of how you 'love' science.
Science across the board seems to be getting more and more, "be in the majority or we will ruin you". Sure, not ALL science. Sciences that for one reason or another don't have any real connection to politics seem still on reasonably solid ground. But really, basically EVERY science connected in any way to something political has reached the point of complete untrustworthiness.
All of that said, the truly sad part is, like the 4 "good" cops who do nothing, the "safe" sciences seem content to sit it out when frankly, they are MORE than qualified to say, "man, I'm no immunologist but that shite is fricked up".
Fear and access to research dollars has developed an entire cadre of cowards.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:00 am to crazy4lsu
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Even aerospace, mathematics, and on and on?
There isn't a competent mathematician alive who couldn't see the glaring problems with things being asserted around COVID.
So yeah. I'm definitely gonna include those chicken shits at every university in America.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:04 am to crazy4lsu
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I'm skeptical about your declarations of how you 'love' science.
It would sure be nice if some scientific disciplines would welcome skepticism like science is supposed to.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:05 am to Blutarsky
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while suffering from heart failure due to the vaccine
Or at the very least, being used for that claim here...
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:05 am to GumboPot
quote:Hell.
It would sure be nice if some scientific disciplines would welcome skepticism like science is supposed to.
There was a time when scientists were willfully skeptical of THEMSELVES!
That's fricking dead.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:08 am to crazy4lsu
quote:Then it is fair for HD to extrapolate representative duplicity to the entire field. Passivity is complicity.
Outside of I guess professional censure, and losing jobs, we don't have a real method of accountability that is actually productive
There are a select few trodding this planet with your combination of intellect, education, and training. Those who aren't, dearly depend on you to call out the BS they are not equipped to sort through.
For example, when Fauci claims gain of function research is worth the risk, he needs to be professionally eviscerated. When he tells Rand Paul that wearing a cloth mask in a room with 25 feet of social distancing is "science" and not "theater," he needs to be called out by 1000's of physicians. When he claims CV19 is a product of natural zoonosis, yet with no indigenous animal vector in evidence, he should be regarded as an oaf by the medical community.
What has happened is just the opposite.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:08 am to crazy4lsu
quote:Take that word and shove it up your arse.
systemic
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:12 am to NC_Tigah
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For example, when Fauci claims gain of function research is worth the risk, he needs to be professionally eviscerated. When he tells Rand Paul that wearing a cloth mask in a room with 25 feet of social distancing is "science" and not "theater," he needs to be called out by 1000's of physicians. When he claims CV19 is a product of natural zoonosis, yet with no indigenous animal vector in evidence, he should be regarded as an oaf by the medical community.
What has happened is just the opposite.
frickING THIS. Worse. They didn't just shut up. They sat around with their thumbs up their arse as the VERY FEW PEOPLE willing to speak up were ruined.
They've shown me, and everyone, that there is no reason to believe that if the same happened on a different subject in 2024, that they would be any more worth trusting.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:22 am to Jake88
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Hundreds on his board are an emotional wreck over covid vaccines. You're the pot, they're the kettle.
I think the vast majority are pissed off in regards to what they did with the vaccine. If it was simply, “Hey if you are elderly or generally unhealthy and unable/refuse to get healthier or just generally scared of Covid then here is something that could help you not be so sick from Covid” then I don’t think people would much care about it. Problem is the administration and the media wanted to give everyone not totally onboard a scarlet letter.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:48 am to crazy4lsu
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But none of those credentials matter if they make bad arguments.
You keep saying this but Drs Malone, Cole, McCullough, etc we’re right about 99% of the time.
Strip the credentials from every Dr who was wrong and blatantly lied to the masses.
Until then, it’s just hypocritical gibberish.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 10:00 am to STEVED00
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Problem is the administration and the media wanted to give everyone not totally onboard a scarlet letter.
And now, horse pasters are doing the same thing to anyone who is vaccinated.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 10:06 am to Blutarsky
quote:You're asking that question during flu season?
A vaccine prevents infection.
Yes or No?
Seriously though, a vaccine is a deployed immunogenic antigen. If the resulting immune response corresponds adequately to a target pathogen, it prevents infection, or at least lessens infection sequelae.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 10:08 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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And now, horse pasters are doing the same thing to anyone who is vaccinated.
Well who came up with that moniker, horse paster? Was that fair?
Posted on 1/23/23 at 10:14 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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And now, horse pasters are doing the same thing to anyone who is vaccinated.
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 1/23/23 at 10:19 am to crazy4lsu
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And my point is that if you can't look at each individual thing as a distinct entity and rather write off the entirety of scientific discovery, as you yourself said, that is your fault.
Yet you do this with McCullough. You zero in one thing they may have been wrong on while turning a blind eye to those who were wrong the majority of the time.
You can’t hold a serious discussion if you can’t even be honest.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 10:20 am to RaginCajunz
Funny I had covid over a year ago and am not vaxxed. I haven’t had so much as a sniffle since
Posted on 1/23/23 at 10:23 am to deltaland
Natural immunity is better than the vaccine against Covid and it’s variants
Posted on 1/23/23 at 10:24 am to STEVED00
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Natural immunity is better than the vaccine against Covid and it’s variants
This has always been the case for all viruses except COVID.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 10:24 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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And now, horse pasters are doing the same thing to anyone who is vaccinated.
Can you link examples of them demanding that the jabbed lose their jobs? Trying to censor/cancel the jabbed? Show proof of being a pureblood to enter establishments? Refusing to allow the jabbed to see their elderly family members? Ostracizing jabbed family members at holidays? Not allowing the jabbed to see children in the family?
Posted on 1/23/23 at 10:26 am to deltaland
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Funny I had covid over a year ago and am not vaxxed. I haven’t had so much as a sniffle since
I take horse paste 1x/wk and never got covid or so much as a sniffle.
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