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re: Erika Kirk Message: A serious epidemic of dehumanization driving political violence
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:04 am to davyjones
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:04 am to davyjones
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Why exactly do you think it’s not working?
And why do you think it’s detrimental to her?
My theory is simply that you just don’t really like her, nor did you probably like her husband either. My guess as to the reason why? Again, just a guess, but most likely just because you associate his supporters with Trump supporters, who I presume you don’t like either. My guess as to why you don’t like Trump supporters? Because you don’t like Trump. And I suppose my guess as to why you don’t like Trump? No idea, and I question whether you even do either.
There is something seriously wrong with you guys. First, it's not working, in my view, because TPUSA is getting dragged into stupid podcaster fights and doesn't appear to be thriving to me. The Vance/UGA debacle is an indicator. Maybe I'm wrong, numbers will eventually bear that out. And I'm definitely not invested enough in my opinion to get mad about it if shown to be wrong.
I think it's detrimental to her because she's a human being who saw her husband murdered a few months ago and remains in an environment where that's relived every day with all sorts of absurd baggage (Owens fights, etc.) attached to it. Any normal human being is going to struggle with healing in that environment.
I'm neutral towards her. I certainly don't dislike her, I just don't really relate to her. I admired Charlie a lot, and I support the President, so I don't know what you're ranting about with the rest of this.
I'll admit that some of my reluctance on Erika and her continued role/media involvement pertains to the influencer/online culture she comes out of. I'm definitely biased against it, think it's mostly unhealthy, and I'm sure it plays a role in my questioning of whether this is the best thing for her to be doing (for herself and TPUSA).
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:06 am to cajunangelle
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It is a deeply ingrained hate of Jews
Bro no it’s not, it’s people like you that have an ingrained love of Jews that are causing people to wake up to the “why are all of our politicians in Israel’s pocket”, “why do we need to subsidize this tiny country on the other side of the world while our nation crumbles around us?”. The fact you can’t see that is telling.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:11 am to 4cubbies
Jimmy Fallon was threatened with possible cancellation... and criticized for "humanizing" Trump by touching his hair.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:25 am to Ihatethiscity
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“why do we need to subsidize this tiny country on the other side of the world while our nation crumbles around us?”.
Because that’s where Jesus Christ is from brother. Like the caucasian blonde haired and blue eyed Lynyrd Skynrd band member looking Jesus with big angel wings stretched open. Bright glow aura and all. That’s how I like my Jesus.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:30 am to Ihatethiscity
I dont have an ingrained love for Jews. I just dont think they are "the" boogeyman.
What do you think of the UK parliament and Intel agency knifing America worse than Israel has?
The hate Jews mentality... of making them the root of all evil is far beyond neocon reform.
Was there a Jew under your bed this morning? Did the Jews pee in your Wheaties?
Qatar and the UAE, SA, have lobbyists. They just give bags of cash and gold direct. They have free visits to their luxury hotels to wheel and deal DC, like Israel and others..
Both foreign and domestic lobby DC.. It will never change any more than a pitch on a business deal will...
Grow up and grab your Binkie, it is how IRL works...
If we hated on all of America's allies, we'd have no friends.
What do you think of the UK parliament and Intel agency knifing America worse than Israel has?
The hate Jews mentality... of making them the root of all evil is far beyond neocon reform.
Was there a Jew under your bed this morning? Did the Jews pee in your Wheaties?
Qatar and the UAE, SA, have lobbyists. They just give bags of cash and gold direct. They have free visits to their luxury hotels to wheel and deal DC, like Israel and others..
Both foreign and domestic lobby DC.. It will never change any more than a pitch on a business deal will...
Grow up and grab your Binkie, it is how IRL works...
If we hated on all of America's allies, we'd have no friends.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:31 am to Pettifogger
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I'll admit that some of my reluctance on Erika and her continued role/media involvement pertains to the influencer/online culture she comes out of. I'm definitely biased against it, think it's mostly unhealthy, and I'm sure it plays a role in my questioning of whether this is the best thing for her to be doing (for herself and TPUSA).
I think it's hard to separate her from her "role" as widow and mother from her "role" as CEO (or whatever?) of TPUSA. We are expecting her to behave as a grieving widow and mother who prioritizes her family and not the person charged with advancing TPUSA. I honestly don't really follow her and I had never heard of Charlie Kirk or TPUSA until he was killed, but I'm assuming Erika blurs her roles as mother/widow and CEO of TPUSA in the public arena.
I wonder if part of this is due to our internalized/socialized gender roles. Do we expect men to behave as grieving widowers instead of businessmen? I can't really come up with an example of a widower being criticized (or not) off the top of my head... it was just a thought I had.
I agree that she comes off very attention-seeking and overly aware of cameras. Maybe she's always been that way? Idk.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:41 am to Pettifogger
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I'll admit that some of my reluctance on Erika and her continued role/media involvement pertains to the influencer/online culture she comes out of. I'm definitely biased against it, think it's mostly unhealthy, and I'm sure it plays a role in my questioning of whether this is the best thing for her to be doing (for herself and TPUSA).
A person who has a history of trying to be an influencer and being on reality TV immediately inserting herself into a public facing role in a political organization after her husband's brutal murder should make most neutral people hesitant at best.
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TPUSA is getting dragged into stupid podcaster fights and doesn't appear to be thriving to me.
Charlie did simple events on campus's, but since his death TPUSA has been closer to WWE than the video's that got TPUSA famous.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:46 am to cajunangelle
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If we hated on all of America's allies, we'd have no friends.
you do a lot of kvetching that people slightly dislike israel. I've seen you talk more shite about England - the "mr irrelevant" of countries in todays day and age than any other country.
How about, shockingly - we spend our money on our own country? Lets see a completely finished border wall. Lets do mass deportations. I hear those flights cost a lot of money, thats money well spent imo.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:49 am to 4cubbies
She is a former beauty queen. Miss Arizona. She knows her way around cameras.
She has always been wealthy enough to hire nanny's. Her mom watches the kids.
She can be a CEO of anything she wants from her laptop and occasional IRL meetings
Why on earth are the men on this board wanting her in the kitchen? She gave a mini speech of dehumanization driving political violence. It was the truth...
Why some posters hate on this, may show that Candace Owens blaming Erika nearly daily for killing her own husband...And thejoos landed secretly to kill CK at Fort crazy town with Egyptians---- is rubbing off on people as real?
BTW calling libs, libs, democrats leftists, cannot dehumanize...as they dehumanized themselves with pure hate. We are suppose to call out evil. I can call out both political parties. Can you?
She has always been wealthy enough to hire nanny's. Her mom watches the kids.
She can be a CEO of anything she wants from her laptop and occasional IRL meetings
Why on earth are the men on this board wanting her in the kitchen? She gave a mini speech of dehumanization driving political violence. It was the truth...
Why some posters hate on this, may show that Candace Owens blaming Erika nearly daily for killing her own husband...And thejoos landed secretly to kill CK at Fort crazy town with Egyptians---- is rubbing off on people as real?
BTW calling libs, libs, democrats leftists, cannot dehumanize...as they dehumanized themselves with pure hate. We are suppose to call out evil. I can call out both political parties. Can you?
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:02 am to 4cubbies
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I think it's hard to separate her from her "role" as widow and mother from her "role" as CEO (or whatever?) of TPUSA. We are expecting her to behave as a grieving widow and mother who prioritizes her family and not the person charged with advancing TPUSA. I honestly don't really follow her and I had never heard of Charlie Kirk or TPUSA until he was killed, but I'm assuming Erika blurs her roles as mother/widow and CEO of TPUSA in the public arena.
I've said a lot that I think it's an expectation thing, and people see Erika Kirk as a loving/wife mother and forget she came out of that influencer/very online subculture even before that (as I understand it).
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I wonder if part of this is due to our internalized/socialized gender roles. Do we expect men to behave as grieving widowers instead of businessmen? I can't really come up with an example of a widower being criticized (or not) off the top of my head... it was just a thought I had.
No, but then I believe in actual gender roles as innate/developed over 100s/1000s of years. I do not think women are predisposed to heal by putting their heads down and getting to work in the same manner men are.
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I agree that she comes off very attention-seeking and overly aware of cameras. Maybe she's always been that way? Idk.
I don't think she knows any other way. I've talked about this a lot over the years, my bewilderment as to people who take to FB after tragedy, etc. That's how they live...why wouldn't that be how they grieve? (but I don't think it's good/healthy).
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:16 am to cajunangelle
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She is a former beauty queen.
There it is. The real reason for the sudden undying loyalty she inspires.
A lot of you are really too taken in by appearances.
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 10:17 am
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:19 am to cajunangelle
She needs someone professional to teach her and guide her PR.
She’s talking anti-violence while dressed like a contra, or a sniper, or like she’s about to go rob a bank. With bizarre eye glares and mannerisms that we’ve never seen someone have - including beauty pageant women or anyone else who’s ever performed in front of cameras. Anybody really. Nobody has that disposition. Let alone grieving widows.
She’s talking anti-violence while dressed like a contra, or a sniper, or like she’s about to go rob a bank. With bizarre eye glares and mannerisms that we’ve never seen someone have - including beauty pageant women or anyone else who’s ever performed in front of cameras. Anybody really. Nobody has that disposition. Let alone grieving widows.
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 10:25 am
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:31 am to Madking
But there's only a few podcast bros that are the problem
Tucker Carlson
Nick Fuentes
Alex Jones
Shawn Ryan
Tucker Carlson
Nick Fuentes
Alex Jones
Shawn Ryan
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:32 am to Furlong the Red
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The real reason for the sudden undying loyalty she inspires.
It’s also the reason for a lot of the hate.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:34 am to Ihatethiscity
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why do we need to subsidize this tiny country on the other side of the world while our nation crumbles around us?
What percentage of our foreign aid goes to Israel?
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:34 am to FLTech
Miss Cleo
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:42 am to Pettifogger
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No, but then I believe in actual gender roles as innate/developed over 100s/1000s of years. I do not think women are predisposed to heal by putting their heads down and getting to work in the same manner men are.
No one can actually heal by distracting themselves. No one can. It's just easier to get through the day doing that. Time eventually dulls or numbs the pain or the hedonic treadmill simply takes over and we all adapt to new realities without processing that grief.
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I don't think she knows any other way. I've talked about this a lot over the years, my bewilderment as to people who take to FB after tragedy, etc. That's how they live...why wouldn't that be how they grieve? (but I don't think it's good/healthy).
You could be right. Definitely not healthy and it's proven to be isolating despite "online engagement."
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:45 am to lionward2014
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Charlie did simple events on campus's, but since his death TPUSA has been closer to WWE than the video's that got TPUSA famous.
All of it purposeful to destroy it.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:47 am to Pettifogger
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First, it's not working, in my view, because TPUSA is getting dragged into stupid podcaster fights and doesn't appear to be thriving to me.
They’re obviously not thriving.
It seemed like an obvious choice, really, to have Erika take over. I assume she’s operating mostly in a figurehead, public face of the organization fashion. I seriously don’t think she’s driving policy or corporate initiatives.
It would’ve been impossible to foresee the Jootards making Charlie’s widow an object of derision and hatred. And anyone who says differently is lying.
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