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re: Erik Prince, former Navy SEAL and founder of Blackwater PMC, comments on shooting.

Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20294 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:11 pm to
If the USSS doesn’t have a “first shot” policy for an unknown with a rifle on an adjacent roof 150 yds from a Presidential candidate then we have bigger problems than just “after shot” execution.
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2894 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Where did the 488 yard shot come from? I haven’t seen that yet?


Same. Where is this coming from?
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95027 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:13 pm to
“Social engineering priority of the day”


Love that.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24215 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:14 pm to
It would be absurd to have a sniper at 488 yards but not have LEO standing on any building within that distance, lol. I’m not saying it’s not true, but WTF SS
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
7456 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:19 pm to
Are we sure he didn't mean 488 feet (166 yards)? No one was shooting from 488 yards.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14705 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

I’m not saying it’s not true, but WTF SS


I tend to be of the opinion the the SS was, rather than malevolent in their duties, simply assumed that nobody would try to assassinate Trump and simply was derelict in their duties of pre assessing the conditions and the location. In other words, they simply were incompetent and didn't know what in the heck they were doing.

But I bet they ensure that all proper pronouns are used, that an appropriate cross section of society is represented at all levels of the SS and that they make using a weapon the absolute last option available for any all scenarios. You know, the truly important stuff.

But malevolence could still be the factor as well. "It's Trump... maybe something WILL happen to him. Let's not try too hard to prevent it."
Posted by berrycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
7223 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:22 pm to
FWIW
I’ve seen a pic circulating of an Asian guy/ sniper. I’m on my phone so can’t tell if the same guy in this photo, but i think it might be. The one I’ve seen circulating is from another angle/shows his face better.

Has anyone else seen this? He’s got the same hat on
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2380 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:22 pm to
What saved Trump was him turning his head to the right just before the guy started shooting. Otherwise, that bullet would have gone through one side and out the other.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:22 pm to
I know Prince knows his shite, but is there really that much wind drift on a 55 grain .223 or 5.56 bullet at less than 150 yards and 5 mph wind?

Does anyone know what direction the wind was from?

It would have to have been a west wind for the bullet to drift left as the shooter was firing from north to south according to maps and diagrams.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Where did the 488 yard shot come from? I haven’t seen that yet?

The two on the barn everybody is focused on didn't do the kill shot. The kill shot came from a 3rd (as in not the other barn's team) sniper team. Not sure where they were, but probably behind the crowd to the south.

I don't think that team is SS on the barn. FBI's HRT? PA staties? not sure.
quote:

Does anyone know what direction the wind was from?
prevailing winds in PA are from the W... doesn't mean that was the case here though. I didn't see any thunderstorms or anything. That puts it pretty much behind the shooter.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15325 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:24 pm to
You retarded fricking gump
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

But I bet they ensure that all proper pronouns are used, that an appropriate cross section of society is represented at all levels of the SS
Check out the video of them getting him into the SUV. There’s 3 fricking female SS agents side by side next to the SUV.

I’m sorry, but if I’m being protected from assassination, I want pretty much all men on my detail.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18042 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:29 pm to
What the frick do you Mr expert, the utter stupidity another example of you can’t fix stupid You an ex sniper frick off
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85117 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

highly doubt he was doing wind assessments.


No way he was… there is a shot prior to hitting Trump that attracts everyone’s attention, so he wasn’t close with first try.

After that I think he just closed his eyes and began firing before he was taken out.

It was pure luck Trump was hit
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

That puts it pretty much behind the shooter.
Nah, look at a map of the scene. The shooter was on a building north of the rally/podium shooting towards the south.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28172 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:36 pm to
What does that SEAL know?

DisplacedBuckeye says the USSS acted like an elite force, taking down the would-be assassin within seconds of taking multiple shots at the likely next President of the US, in broad daylight, on a rooftop that should have been monitored.

I'll trust the expertise of DisplacedBuckeye.

Sorry Erik.
Posted by nwacajun
St louis
Member since Dec 2008
1659 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:39 pm to
He’s someone who should be in charge of things important.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3990 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

I’m not convinced the first shot was the ear shot. Either way, we are lucky this was a .223 semi auto vs a bolt long rifle.


He did flinch before he started lifting his hand to his ear. I think first shot was clean miss.
Posted by SkiUtah420
Member since Jul 2023
1139 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:43 pm to
Erik Prince for Sec of Defense
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23831 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:50 pm to
Mr. Prince should offer his services to Trump. The SS shouldn't get a do over.
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