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re: Enough signatures gathered to have California vote on splitting into 3 states

Posted on 4/13/18 at 6:22 am to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 6:22 am to
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Never forget we are donor state.


they do donate quite a bit leftism and moral rot
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
16368 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:41 am to
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Water could be the problem. Right now, SoCal gets a ton of its water under compacts with other states. If California splits, I'm not sure what would happen to that compact. I am confident that other states would like to bust it and get more of the water for themselves. BL: A split could leave Los Angeles as a dry, dusty desert full of people dying of thirst.


There wouldn't be enough popcorn in the world to meet my needs when I sit down and watch all three Californias fight each other over water rights. It would look like that Batley Townswomens' Guild Presents the Battle of Pearl Harbor Monty Python skit.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:13 am to
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build desalination plants.


Whatcha gonna do with the brine waste, Chief?

When we inject frac water they say it causes earthquakes. Can you imagine inject 300 or 400 million bbls of brine on the San Andreas fault? Would you put your money behind it with that risk? Would you insure it?
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24022 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:16 am to
That is not what would happen. All three would go straight democratic with only one being even closely contested. The left knows this, thats why they are relatively quite on the subject.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:37 am to
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Whatcha gonna do with the brine waste, Chief?

When we inject frac water they say it causes earthquakes. Can you imagine inject 300 or 400 million bbls of brine on the San Andreas fault? Would you put your money behind it with that risk? Would you insure it?


You make a saltwater engine to power the desalination plants.

If you feel like that's a pipe dream, we are going to have water scarcity globally by 2025 so we need to come up with something. Some of the more wealthy Middle East countries already have desalination plants and already use them effectively.

"According to the International Desalination Association, in June 2015, 18,426 desalination plants operated worldwide, producing 86.8 million cubic meters per day, providing water for 300 million people.[5] This number increased from 78.4 million cubic meters in 2013,[4] a 10.71% increase in 2 years. The single largest desalination project is Ras Al-Khair in Saudi Arabia, which produced 1,025,000 cubic meters per day in 2014.[4] Kuwait produces a higher proportion of its water than any other country, totaling 100% of its water use.[6]"

Wiki


We could also use the brine by evaporating the water in it, thus producing steam to help in the desalination process, and sell the remaining sea salt to Salt companies for cheaper than they pay now.

There are solutions. No one wants to do anything about it because no company wants to spend the money. This is where we have to use the power of community in socialisation
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 11:51 am
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:56 am to
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If you feel like that's a pipe dream, we are going to have water scarcity globally by 2025


Global war....climate cha.....WE'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF WATER!!!!!!

Give me all of your money so we can fix this!!!!
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:58 am to
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Global war....climate cha.....WE'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF WATER!!!!!!


What an idiot. We're going to need desalination plants in the future with rising ocean waters and less fresh water tables. You can sit there and be a jackass all day long but it's still going to need fixing.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:27 pm to
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we need to come up with something


The liberal mantra

We might have a problem one day, we don't know how to fix it but we have to do something no matter the cost.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:45 pm to
How many of those 600,000 were illegal immigrants
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:48 pm to
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Isn't northern California kinda conservative? That would be cool to finally have some red on the electoral map out west.


Look at the electoral maps.

Like every state, Outsode of the large metro areas California is very red.

Like Trump or Not, the last election proved the why we need the Electoral College, to keep urban areas from running roughshod over rural America
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:51 pm to
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So more US Senators from California then


No. California would still have 2 Senators. Just like every other state.


The real interesting thing about this is which way the other 2 states go.

Would we have 4 more Dem Senators or 4 more Republicans?

Depending where they break apart into 3 States it could be huge for one of the 2 parties. Which is why the political class will make sure it never happens.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 5:39 pm to
One million cubic meters a day would be about one-fourth of one percent of California’s water usage per day. But I’m not good with decimal points.

Now tell me bout this saltwater engine. And where does the waste stream for that go?
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 9:17 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 5:42 pm to
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What an idiot. We're going to need desalination plants in the future with rising ocean waters and less fresh water tables. You can sit there and be a jackass all day long but it's still going to need fixing.





Right, I walked to work today because your daddy was right about us running out of fossil fuels in 30 years when he said it in 1977.
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4878 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:03 pm to
Absolutely beautiful state. But Jerry Brown is weird. Carve that sucka up!
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69180 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:29 pm to
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No. California would still have 2 Senators. Just like every other state.


The real interesting thing about this is which way the other 2 states go.



It looks like to me that Northern California would lean democrat, and would likely have 2 democrat senators, but occasionally a moderate republican.

Southern California would be dark to light red with 2 GOP Senators.

So, odds are, it would be a balanced event.

If somehow Northern California were to be drawn in such a way that it would also be solid red, then I would propose adding Puerto Rico as a state to keep the balance.

Another state looking to split is New York where republican Long Island wishes to be independent from the rest of the state.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 7:35 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19189 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:03 pm to
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California wields too much power in presidential elections by holding nearly 1/7 of the entire electoral college votes
California should have more and the small states should have less
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