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re: Elon Musk is on Twitter right now calling Peter Navarro a retard
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:21 am to SlidellCajun
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:21 am to SlidellCajun
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Navarro is already under fire to making up a person called Ron vara who he references in his books as an economist who advocates tariffs, and now he has Musk after him
Musk is super pissed because Navarro called Tesla an American car assembler and not an American car manufacturer.
True story.
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:23 am to Tandemjay
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Good cop bad cop
Can we stop excusing incompetence with 4D chess, please
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:23 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm not really a fan of Lutnick and Navarro. I think they're cranks. Bessent is the brains of the economic operation though I'm not sure he's always the driver because those two cranks are very strong personalities.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 10:25 am
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:28 am to Diego Ricardo
I'll give an example of why I think these guys are cranks:
Vietnam immediately comes to the table willing to go to zero tariffs and Navarro is trying to dunk on them about how that isn't enough.
Look, Vietnam among others in the Asian sphere are essential to isolating China as they siphon industry away from China and deepen their trade relationships with the West. I'm sure we want more than just unfettered entry into their markets but I think it is more than enough to have access because of the other implicit benefits of drawing them closer to the West.
I don't think Lutnick and Navarro understand the bigger geopolitical picture sometimes in their comments.
Vietnam immediately comes to the table willing to go to zero tariffs and Navarro is trying to dunk on them about how that isn't enough.
Look, Vietnam among others in the Asian sphere are essential to isolating China as they siphon industry away from China and deepen their trade relationships with the West. I'm sure we want more than just unfettered entry into their markets but I think it is more than enough to have access because of the other implicit benefits of drawing them closer to the West.
I don't think Lutnick and Navarro understand the bigger geopolitical picture sometimes in their comments.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:31 am to teke184
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Chaos is a ladder - Peter Baelish
His analogy was climbing the ladder. We're at the top
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:32 am to SlowFlowPro
Point still is that the clever can take advantage of chaos to end up in a better position.
“Better position” is relative.
“Better position” is relative.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:32 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Wake me up when one of them gets busted for stealing women's luggage at the airport.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:33 am to captainFid
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To a degree, there needs to be chaos right now... doesn't bother me one bit. This has all occurred in less than one week
Regardless of what Musk or Navarro says, Trump understands his plan. Ive heard Bessent and Lutnick in several interviews and haven't heard contradictions.
Some folks are making Trumps plan for foreign trade all about tariffs, which it isn't. Tariffs are one part. Trump, Lutnick, and Bessent have all explained this repeatedly.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:36 am to roadGator
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The commie media isn’t being crass when they use terms like chaotic. I don’t want that to be accurate but at some point you can’t ignore the chaos. One can make an argument that Trump chaos is good and intentional and well thought out. One cannot make the argument that chaotic isn’t an appropriate description at times.
Chaos
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Why aren't you talking about the stock market today?
I still find it amazing that you never could find one single thing to criticize O'Biden for in 4 years. It's almost like you have a little agenda in play.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:43 am to Fun Bunch
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Trump needs to reign these guys in and tell them to stfu and all get on the same message.
Why? It provides great distraction.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:45 am to BuckyCheese
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Depends on the definition of American made he's using.
Per Elon's own Grok Tesla's vary between 60 and 75% American made when considering the parts, not just assembly.
I have no idea if this is right.
but it probably is.
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“By any definition whatsoever, Tesla is the most vertically integrated auto manufacturer in America with the highest percentage of US content.” Musk continued.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:50 am to SDVTiger
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You would still.be crying so does it matter of its clear to you tards?
He's still arse hurt that RON got his shite pushed in by Neocon Nikki
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:53 am to Diego Ricardo
You don't always take the first deal when it comes to negotiating.
And considering this has a lot to do with China. You probably want a bunch of countries at the table first before you start cranking out deals to ensure that china won't just bypass and dump in other countries.
And considering this has a lot to do with China. You probably want a bunch of countries at the table first before you start cranking out deals to ensure that china won't just bypass and dump in other countries.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:53 am to KCT
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Why aren't you talking about the stock market today?
You have me confused with someone else. I haven't really discussed the stock market. I've discussed the economy (globally and our domestic one).
I've only really discussed the stock market to display MAGA's hypocrisy and leftist rhetoric, and that was only in passing (even that discussion focused primarily on leftist rhetoric about things other than the stock market).
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I still find it amazing that you never could find one single thing to criticize O'Biden for in 4 years.
I disagreed with almost every Biden policy, including his decision to continue Trump's tariffs
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It's almost like you have a little agenda in play.
Promoting less government and capitalism is my agenda. I'm clear about it.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:00 am to roadGator
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One cannot make the argument that chaotic isn’t an appropriate description at times.
I still think it's the news.
Here is my argument.
Stock market crashed under Biden. News basically said it didn't happen and 17 economists said Bidens plan is great.
Now look at last week. black monday, great depression.
Want more evidence?
Covid. Death tracker under trump. No death tracker but more deaths under biden.
Don't be a globalist shill. You are better than that.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:02 am to dgnx6
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I still think it's the news.
You can find the statements from Lutnick, Navarro, and Bessent themselves that are conflicting and chaotic, though. It's not some creation of the media.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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Why aren't you talking about the stock market today?
You have me confused with someone else. I haven't really discussed the stock market. I've discussed the economy (globally and our domestic one).
I've only really discussed the stock market to display MAGA's hypocrisy and leftist rhetoric,
So you HAVE discussed the stock market.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:28 am to Diego Ricardo
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Vietnam immediately comes to the table willing to go to zero tariffs and Navarro is trying to dunk on them about how that isn't enough.
Do you think Navarro might have discussed this with Trump beforehand???
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:31 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Not a good look for Elon. Even if he is right, keep that shite private. No need to air these internal disputes.
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