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re: Elon Musk: “If you have bureaucracy in charge, then what meaning does democracy have?"

Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133669 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:16 pm to
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Bro, you have nine threads on the first page. What are you even doing with your life?


Let him work.

Signed,

Chicken
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33165 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:16 pm to
Less people to pay off? Plus no more regulations .
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452325 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:17 pm to
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If they’re both moving that way then it would be authoritarian either way, so go with the authoritarian you would rather rule you.


This is the false choice involved, which was best seen recently with the Libertarian to Authoritarian movement in response to MAGA.

We all know what happens to those who remained in the small government camp (see: anti-SFP vitriol).
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
973 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:17 pm to
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unelected Billionaire running a government department that wasn’t set up by congress



DOGE replaces an already named department Obama created and whose budget is approved by congress.

Said Billionaire is not doing the cutting. Members of congress are attached to DOGE as well. Trump administration is looking at the budgets and spending under the direction of the United States President who is currently Donald J Trump. Who coincidentally, appointed Billionaire to head the efforts at DOGE. Enjoy the process
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133669 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:17 pm to
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Somebody needs to tell Elon we're not a democracy.


Elon is just playing the left's rhetorical game. Tucker does it all the time with "democracy".
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76041 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:19 pm to
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Correct. It was set up by Obama. Can you please cite your posts criticizing it when Obama created it?


DOGE? Or are you going to say something about billionaires having undue influence of politics.

because ithink you forget conservatives used to support Citizens United before companies got woke.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:23 pm to
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This is the false choice involved, which was best seen recently with the Libertarian to Authoritarian movement in response to MAGA.

We all know what happens to those who remained in the small government camp (see: anti-SFP vitriol


I’m not advocating for this, and I still don’t think it happens for quite a while, but in my opinion it is clear that the US will eventually have to go the authoritarian route for national security reasons. The trend of no one believing in the institutions, or the media, while fun to shite on, is not a sustainable position to be in. The moment that a crisis happens like a war we are toast, and even another Covid would be catastrophic because absolutely no one would believe it (catastrophic if the gov tried to enforce mandates).

I’d love to be wrong, but it will take some drastic National unifying moment to get us back on track, and I have a hard time seeing how it happens.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:23 pm to
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Good luck


Thanks Ash

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:24 pm to
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Elon is just playing the left's rhetorical game. Tucker does it all the time with "democracy".


Both know we are a democracy (as well as a republic).
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
14543 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:25 pm to
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Somebody needs to tell Elon we're not a democracy.
that wasnt his point

Your 97 IQ is showing again
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
70993 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:25 pm to
I would think so.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
2701 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:25 pm to
Elon has his work cut out for him with the faux conservatives around here and their hard-on for a police state. They also think only the federal branch is the problem. They think the state and local level are corruption free. Godspeed Mr Musk.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:26 pm to
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that wasnt his point

Your 97 IQ is showing again


Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
8625 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:26 pm to
Uh oh. There is no logic there.

Looks like Musk is talking Asperger’s again….
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53277 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:26 pm to
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DOGE? Or are you going to say something about billionaires having undue influence of politics.


Yes. It is a renamed organization that Obama set up. Were you not aware of that? Perhaps you shouldn’t be opining with hubris from a place of complete ignorance.


quote:

because ithink you forget conservatives used to support Citizens United before companies got woke.


It is a Supreme Court ruling based upon the law. It’s a good ruling from a legal standpoint regardless of whether companies went woke or not. That’s why conservatives liked it. It’s the dems that shite all over the constitution, usually.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32484 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:31 pm to
SFP statement #1 about Elon
quote:

Somebody needs to tell Elon we're not a democracy.

SFP statement #2 about Elon
quote:

Both know we are a democracy (as well as a republic).

Clown status alive and well
This post was edited on 2/11/25 at 4:34 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76041 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:35 pm to
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Yes. It is a renamed organization that Obama set up. Were you not aware of that? Perhaps you shouldn’t be opining with hubris from a place of complete ignorance.


Ok… and they did the same thing or what?

Maybe you can point me to which billionaire was tweeting out which departments they were defunding

I know MAGAs generally don’t make a big deal about government documents on private servers, but I cant imagine this kind of thing would have flown under the radar during the Obama/Biden administration.
This post was edited on 2/11/25 at 4:38 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452325 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:36 pm to
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Clown status alive and well


Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452325 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:38 pm to
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The trend of no one believing in the institutions, or the media, while fun to shite on, is not a sustainable position to be in.

People just need to stop being so emotional and allowing social media to create the echo chambers reinforcing this fear-anger response causing this polarity.

It's not even that complicated of an issue.

Less emotion.

More rationality.

Less isolation within echo chambers.

More interaction with the out group.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
14103 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:40 pm to
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People just need to stop being so emotional and allowing social media to create the echo chambers reinforcing this fear-anger response causing this polarity.

It's not even that complicated of an issue.

Less emotion.

More rationality.

Less isolation within echo chambers.

More interaction with the out group.


Problem is with an ultra connected society, none of this is possible.

Hell even in a non-connected society you don't see much in the way of interacting with the out group



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