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re: Educate me on the AR-15

Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:10 am to
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:10 am to
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One of my friends said (and I’m quoting her not me) that if you hunt with it it maims the animal so much you can’t eat it.


If you're hunting squirrels.
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:10 am to
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One of my friends said (and I’m quoting her not me) that if you hunt with it it maims the animal so much you can’t eat it?




I’m sure she thinks it is only available in .223/5.56, so that is a retarded statement.

I hunt with several different guns, but one is a 7 mag. At 1,000 yards my 7 mag carries almost the same energy as the 223 does at the muzzle. So being shot with it at 1,000 yards is nearly the same as being shot at say 1 yard by a .223, energy wise. It doesn’t main the animal enough to ruin all the meat, and it’s not even the most powerful hunting cartridge available.

I also hunt with a .223, and actually prefer it because it DOESN’T ruin meat. Plus it’s cheap to shoot.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:13 am to
It is no different than this gun

Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:14 am to
This is a .223 bullet and a .22 bullet for comparison:



Now, the .223 has a lot more powder behind it. But this round is on the small end of rifle rounds.

This is the .223 vs. a 30-06 (common hunting rifle round)




Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:16 am to
The .223 is a small round. It is a round with limited recoil. It is a round that can be shot by kids and females that can be recoil adverse. Look at the adjustible stock, it doesnt make a gun more letal, it allows the gun to adjust to fit all sizes of shooters, including kids and females. Here is a picture of the .22, the .223 and the 30'06. The 30'06 was the main round used by the military in WW2 and is a round commonly used for hunting across the US today.


Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:18 am to
That's a well made little slide show.....
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15413 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:19 am to
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That's a well made little slide show....


Agreed
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:21 am to
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Any gun can be used to kill people.

Right

But certainly some are much more effective

And in cases of self defense you would want them to be much more effective
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28613 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:22 am to
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Once they get our AR's they'll come for our AR Knives.



Ask Britain or UK or wherever it is across the pond that they restrict knives. The picture is hilarious, but sadly 100% accurate in its design.
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:22 am to


So here’s a few different cartridges I had in my office. Tell me which one is scarier and then I’ll tell you which one is a .223.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23927 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:24 am to


Personally, I'd rather own the lower one, but I'm kinda old school that way...
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 10:49 am
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18246 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:25 am to
Wick the slideshow didn’t mention the fully semi auto version of the AR. I am confused. CNN told me I could fire it that way. I spent a couple hours at the range on Saturday and none of my AR’s would fire in fully semi auto mode. I must have lemons.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20415 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:31 am to
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One of my friends said (and I’m quoting her not me) that if you hunt with it it maims the animal so much you can’t eat it? That cannot possibly be true, any more so than any other kind of rifle???


Not at all, it has similar Feet Per Sec as many other hunting rifles with a smaller bullet. A subsonic bullet does more damage.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:32 am to
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none of my AR’s would fire in fully semi auto mode.


do you have the requisite 30 magazine clip?

Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141905 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:32 am to
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Once they get our AR's they'll come for our AR Knives
My new play:

AR TOWN



Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:50 am to
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I had a conversation this morning with 2 friends of mine who gave me the “nobody needs” this type of gun.


Constitutional rights do not require a person to prove a need for them. You don't have to prove a need for free speech rights, or any of the rest of the Bill of Rights.

Oddly enough however, the "need" for arms is plainly stated in the Amendment itself. The phrase, "being necessary to the security of a free State" pretty much shoves any "need" argument up their arse.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23927 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 10:37 am to
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I had a conversation this morning with 2 friends of mine who gave me the “nobody needs” this type of gun.


MILLIONS of these rifles have been sold. At this point the AR platform is like the iphone of guns. There are so many accessories and modifications for this platform that one can customize their firearm however they like for their shooting style and needs. By default, they have become the modern day musket.

Only a minuscule percentage of them have been used for unlawful purposes.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21895 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 10:46 am to
An AR-15 is no more dangerous than the gun in the pic below. They both accept detachable magazines that are available in different capacities. They both fire the same .223 caliber ammo.




But to uneducated liberals, the AR-15 LOOKS scary because it resembles the military M-4 and M-16 rifles. The military versions are capable of fully automatic or burst fire and are not legal for the general public to own. The AR-15 is just a great all around gun because its reliable, accurate, has a wide variety of accessories available, and you can buy individual components separately from different manufacturers to custom build an AR.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81622 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 10:56 am to
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Is there some characteristic about this type of gun that makes it any more dangerous than any other type of rifle? If so. What is that specifically?
Some good responses here. As pointed out, the AR-15 doesn't function any differently than any other semi-automatic rifle you can think of.

One possible difference people are somewhat glossing over is ease of reload. Take two popular semi-auto hunting rifles-The Remington 742 and the Browning BAR. Pretty sure the largest aftermarket mags you'll find are 10 round. ARs and some other military type rifles have multiple choices of mag size and are much easier to replace than the way the more traditional hunting rifles. If I were going to attack a large hear of pigs, for example, I'd rather have an AR-15 than either the Remington or the Browning. The Benelli R1 also seems to be limited to 10.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45804 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:00 am to
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If I were going to attack a large hear of pigs, for example


You will never get more than 2-3 rounds off on a heard of pigs before they run away unless they are in a trap, but the point is taken.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 11:02 am
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