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economics of 56 million peeps in china quaranteened

Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:13 am
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:13 am


at some point the quarantine of the massive amount of people has to have an impact on need for internal goods and services. ie oil imports should drop because factories are not running. failure to fill export orders will disrupt china's cash flow and cause down stream orders for parts to stock out affecting other countries.

oil prices are pretty low currently and china is a big importer. Russia , and the middle will likely see further drops on oil next week?

could the virus be the initiator for the long overdue stock market correction

what happens when china cannot afford to feed its people
Posted by DeltaHog
Member since Sep 2009
630 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:16 am to
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what happens when china cannot afford to feed its people



They start eating wild diseased animals like bats and giant salamanders.......
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:17 am to
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what happens when china cannot afford to feed its people


This


And this



And this

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:20 am to
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what happens when china cannot afford to feed its people


Usually they erect a great statue decades later that is eventually torn down

Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117716 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:23 am to
I had that same LEGO man when I was a kid.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13382 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:26 am to
Very good question. Wuhan is already experiencing food shortages and of course price gouging.

The quarantined area is far greater than just Wuhan, but the metro area of Wuhan itself is more populated than LA county metro area (the most heavily populated area in the US). How the heck would we cut off LA and expect them to feed themselves?

And yes their overall economy is going to plummet. Who wants clothes made by people with some unknown virus, much less food, or phones you bring in contact with your mouth?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:46 am to
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I had that same LEGO man when I was a kid.



Fairly decent article on the topic

LINK

Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117716 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 3:27 am to
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An official at Zhushigang village, where the statue was located, said it had not been registered and approved, and had now been removed, People's Daily reported.



quote:

A photo circulated on social media, which could not be independently verified, appearing to show the Mao statue being dismantled, with the legs removed and a black cloth covering the head.


Go read some of the threads on the OT.

They got off light compared to the average American resident for violating similar HOA bylaws here in the United States.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 3:35 am to
This will help America’s economy BOOM through 2020.

Proof that God Almighty has ordained his half-son Donald to rule our empire for at least another term
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 3:42 am to
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Go read some of the threads on the OT.

They got off light compared to the average American resident for violating similar HOA bylaws here in the United States.


Just the idea that you would put up a statue that caused the famine of 10s of millions of people is so absurd in the first place
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24622 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 3:57 am to
Zombie apocalypse is upon us
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 4:48 am to
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could the virus be the initiator for the long overdue stock market correction


Always possible if it’s global and severe. Right now, the big losers will be companies that are directly or indirectly reliant on China. Directly affected companies, like Starbucks, Apple, McDonald’s, WalMart, entertainment related stocks, etc. should tumble pretty bad on Monday. Indirectly affected companies (small percent of consumer base in China, common parts supplied from there, etc.) will take a little hit. Countries non reliant on the Chinese market will probably not go down or even go up a bit. Of course, it’d be a shitty time to be a new Alibaba investor.
The big silver lining is that a widespread, deadly plague and/or quarantine in China might finally pop the bubble on some of the inflated housing markets here in the U.S.
This post was edited on 1/26/20 at 5:01 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 7:35 am to
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The big silver lining is that a widespread, deadly plague and/or quarantine in China might finally pop the bubble on some of the inflated housing markets here in the U.S



Explain this for us dummies.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55486 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 7:38 am to
A lot of prime urban real estate, particularly on the West Coast, is owned by Chinese nationals looking for a non-Chinese asset to pour their capital in to. I'm not so sure that the "plague" would severely impact their ownership or investment, though.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115906 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 7:42 am to
China was already having issues financially. This crisis is the type of thing that can lead to collapse.
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7521 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 7:59 am to
That is crazy. If these frick sticks could just put down the rats, bats and other diseased animals, they wouldn't have to worry about this problem.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:02 pm to
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Explain this for us dummies.


Sure! Chinese people own an outrageous amount of property on the West Coast (entire neighborhoods around LA/OC). Much of what they own sits empty (hence, the push for vacancy taxes). At the same time, an enormous amount of delinquent homeowners (US citizens) are sitting in “million dollar homes” long after they should have been foreclosed. The banks are doing this to avoid tanking the market. The Chinese start liquidating, and I believe it will trigger a bubble burst.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99057 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:06 pm to
I know I'm delaying my purchase of any clothing to celebrate LSU's national championship. That shite is probably made in China.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:24 pm to
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I'm not so sure that the "plague" would severely impact their ownership or investment, though.


Large properties with US based management will probably not be affected. However, the Chinese own an absolutely head splitting amount of single family homes and small rental properties here. My husband’s early legal work involving fighting for tenant’s rights (yes, we are MAGA, and I’m a landlord myself, but my husband grew up homeless for a part of his tender years and we care about the rights of the poor). The number of Chinese nationals who try to get away with Chinese (very low) standards of maintenance and harassing rent-controlled tenants out of their units while they manage everything themselves from China is mind-blowing. Sometimes, they’ll even attempt to represent themselves in court. It doesn’t go very well for then the majority of the time. These are the people who will sell if their income is disrupted.
Posted by makinskrilla
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jun 2009
9727 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:31 pm to
I saw a video that at this point the food supply is sufficient. For today.

Seems that the problem is the government that the precautions will last for 3 months! Transport shut down for 3 months. The food supply may be ok now but I think that is going to change in the near future.
Plus, I know Hubei province is on lockdown, but it seems that it was too late. It seems like this may spread all over China, could all of China then be placed on lock down? That would rock the world economy for sure!!
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