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re: Dr. with credentials a mile long says vaccine is poison, warns against it
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:11 am to Tiguar
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:11 am to Tiguar
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I’m honestly tired of having this argument so I’m just going to call you a dumb arse and the doctor an attention seeking whore.
Is this what packing up one’s toys and going home looks like?
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:16 am to GumboPot
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What is "shedding" in the context of the vaccine?
You can catch it at about the 21 min mark in the interview.
He explains that the ball with the spike proteins clearly gets into all of the bodily fluids secretions. They have the one clear case of the mother passing it through her breastmilk to her baby and the baby dying.
Because there is such little research or data on this, his advice was to wait 4 weeks or so before engaging in activities that would introduce someone else's body fluids into your body.
More research needs to be done because they just haven't studied it other than the baby that came into contact with it through breastfeeding.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:21 am to NC_Tigah
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What is "shedding" in the context of the vaccine?
The "shedding" looks like this
I just want to get this straight.
I don't have the vaccine.
My wife has the vaccine.
The mRNA is in her human cells after vaccination, whether in the epithelial, squamous, or whatever type of human cell producing spiked proteins.
I kiss my wife.
Some of my wife's cheek epithelial cells rub off into my mouth.
Those cells settle in the gum line of my mouth very close to my circulatory system.
The cell dies and releases the mRNA into my bloodstream and now I have the mRNA in my body entering my cells and producing the spiked proteins.
Is this an example of what the doctor is implying?
If so, it makes sense up and until my wife's vaccine mRNA is missing the manmade vector agent that initially facilitated the mRNA to enter her cells.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:24 am to Tiguar
This doctor could only get an interview with the televangelist worldview hokey site? It is a hope porn site that has claims of Trump being reinstated on Aug 13th-now changed to September because the Supreme Court needs time... And the Germany server firefight with Gina Haspel injured type of stories.
Worldview weekend seems like a honeypot national enquirer of hope porn.
Tucker would have had him on if he is legit.
Worldview weekend seems like a honeypot national enquirer of hope porn.
Tucker would have had him on if he is legit.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:25 am to GumboPot
quote:This doesn't happen. The mRNA has been expressed in making the spike protein and is no longer around.
The cell dies and releases the mRNA into my bloodstream and now I have the mRNA in my body entering my cells and producing the spiked proteins
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:25 am to NC_Tigah
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If you still don't understand the difference between causation and association, someone else might be able to better explain it to you. God knows I've tried.
Have you ever watched drug commercials on tv? You know how they say things like, "People with pre-existing heart disease should consult their doctor before taking... as it may result in..."
Yeah, people aren't getting that information with the vaccines. We're just being told they're safe.
Now perhaps people did die of heart attacks, and had pre-existing heart disease. Perhaps they wouldn't have gotten vaccinated if they had been informed of the potential risk.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:27 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:Regarding Covid-19 risk, the more important associated fact is the CFR vs IFR differential. Reported CFR in the US is ~1.7%. Lethality of actual infection is nowhere near that.
The time horizon for covid is 2 weeks
The time horizon for the vaccine is......
The infection rate for covid right now is what low single digits?
The injection rate if you choose the vaccine is 100 percent.
No dog in this fight , but you suck at math.
CV19 IFR is probably ~0.6%-0.7% as I've said for a year, but it's also heavily risk stratified. i.e., Flu is far more dangerous for kids than is CV19. CV19 is far more dangerous for >60y/o's.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:28 am to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Okay, shedding in context of breast feeding leads me to think that these mRNA vaccine molecules still contains the vector agent to enter the human cells.
Is the mRNA vaccine vector agent lost once it enters the cell? I keep calling it a vector agent because I don't know what else to call it. It's the agent that facilitates the mRNA to cross the cell wall.
Is the mRNA vaccine vector agent lost once it enters the cell? I keep calling it a vector agent because I don't know what else to call it. It's the agent that facilitates the mRNA to cross the cell wall.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:28 am to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
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If you read the patent information for the vaccines they say it is expressed in bodily fluids.
So I could get vaxxed and then vaxx wives at the community pool?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:29 am to GumboPot
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Is this an example of what the doctor is implying?
They don't know, which is the unacceptable part. More research is needed. The vaccine is too new and these issues are being dealt with as they arise.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:30 am to Jake88
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The mRNA has been expressed in making the spike protein and is no longer around.
This is what I've always thought and why I'm confused by the shedding comment.
Unless some mRNA vaccine is shed before it enters its host.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:31 am to GumboPot
quote:Yes. It's is a lipophillic "envelope" that allows the vaccine's enclosed mRNA to cross the cell membrane. It has to be destroyed in order for the mRNA to be released to do its job producing the spike protein.
Is the mRNA vaccine vector agent lost once it enters the cell?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:31 am to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Weird how the boards experts have this much time to waste on here
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:33 am to SG_Geaux
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So I could get vaxxed and then vaxx wives at the community pool?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:33 am to cajunangelle
He testified before congress about how dangerous this vaccine was and then got canceled by the left.
Go figure.
And here he is on Fox, so...
Please at least attempt to verify before you make claims.
Go figure.
And here he is on Fox, so...
Please at least attempt to verify before you make claims.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:35 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:34 am to GumboPot
quote:I suppose that is what is being suggested, but that's quite the gauntlet to run and avoid entering a cell prior to being somehow passed on.
Unless some mRNA vaccine is shed before it enters its host
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:35 am to NC_Tigah
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You keep quoting VAERS data as if the complications there are secondary to vaccination rather than simple associations. We've discussed this many times.
If you still don't understand the difference between causation and association, someone else might be able to better explain it to you. God knows I've tried.
If you do understand the difference between causation and association, why are you lying about "vaccine deaths"?
I don't have a problem with VAERS counting deaths FROM the vaccine together with deaths WITH the vaccine. After all, that is the standard now. Let's just be consistent.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:36 am to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
I've had the vaccine for a month now and no problems and, thankfully, no issues whatsoever.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:37 am to Tiguar
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There’s two ways out of this. You’re either getting infected at some point or getting vaccinated.
If you’re alive long enough and you’re not a recluse, yes. And this is an excellent argument for letting the damn thing run its course.
Some people are never going to take the vaccine and we can’t run into bunkers every time this pops up.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:40 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:38 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Man, so Donald Trump's Operation Warp Speed is a complete failure right? All it did was create a deadly vaccine that has been given to over 200M Americans. That has to be one of the greatest blunders in history. To champion the development of a deadly
You’re so full of shite bro! When it’s bad news about the vaccine, then it’s Trump’s baby, otherwise it’s a great achievement by our esteemed President Joe Biden…you guys are so phony!
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