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re: Dr. with credentials a mile long says vaccine is poison, warns against it

Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:40 am to
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:40 am to
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I don't have a problem with VAERS counting deaths FROM the vaccine together with deaths WITH the vaccine. After all, that is the standard now. Let's just be consistent.


Adding to this, people are going to have pre-existing conditions, so getting a vaccine may very well activate those conditions and kill them. 100% avoidable by not taking the Jab.

COVID is treatable with several medications, a vaccine is not required. Isn't the risk too high compared to the medication which doesn't have to affect our RNA?
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:41 am
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24666 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:41 am to
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Man, so Donald Trump's Operation Warp Speed is a complete failure right? All it did was create a deadly vaccine that has been given to over 200M Americans

Donald Trump did all that R&D by himself, and then rolled it all out too, and injected those willing to take a still experimental, non-approved vaccine?

Come on.

He was painted into a corner and had to do something, anything. Barry Hussein would have just told America to buckle up until it goes away. Why? Because the media would have treated it like another passing freak virus if anyone other than Donald J. Trump was president.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:41 am to
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Okay, shedding in context of breast feeding leads me to think that these mRNA vaccine molecules still contains the vector agent to enter the human cells.

Is the mRNA vaccine vector agent lost once it enters the cell? I keep calling it a vector agent because I don't know what else to call it. It's the agent that facilitates the mRNA to cross the cell wall.



No. In breast feeding it would likely be just IgA, an immunoglobulin which accumulates in mucosal surfaces. The mRNA would likely be degraded by specific enzymes called RNases, which is why the mRNA needs to be attached to a liposome or lipid nanoparticle in order to cross the cell membrane. It is exactly the same principle that steroid hormones use, both exogenous and endogenous, in order to cross cell membranes and modulate transcription directly.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:44 am to
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I've had the vaccine for a month now and no problems and, thankfully, no issues whatsoever.


I'm glad that was the case for you.

As someone that has gotten the vaccine, do you advocate for ALL potential risks that have been identified to be relayed to others interested in being vaccinated?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30380 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:49 am to
I would like to know if and how the information during development of the vaccine was shared among the pharmaceutical companies. If they corroborated and helped each other.

And…let’s not pretend these companies were exactly friendly with the Trump administration.
Posted by Bryno1960
Off River Road
Member since Aug 2013
2497 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:50 am to
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As someone that has gotten the vaccine, do you advocate for ALL potential risks that have been identified to be relayed to others interested in being vaccinated?


I've actually had the vaccine since May when I got my second dose of the Pfizer. In answer to your question, I'm not telling anyone to either get the vaccination or not. It's their decision to weigh the pros and cons for themselves and make whatever choice is best for them.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:56 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118660 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:50 am to
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No. In breast feeding it would likely be just IgA, an immunoglobulin which accumulates in mucosal surfaces. The mRNA would likely be degraded by specific enzymes called RNases, which is why the mRNA needs to be attached to a liposome or lipid nanoparticle in order to cross the cell membrane. It is exactly the same principle that steroid hormones use, both exogenous and endogenous, in order to cross cell membranes and modulate transcription directly.



Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146530 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:52 am to
I just watched most of his testimony LINK He speaks of treatment of covid and how our country was/is a cluster frick of how to treat CV-19.

Anyone can agree with this. He is very smart and makes 100% sense in a political world that lacks common sense.

I didn't see him call the vaccine poison in the testimony. I trust NC_Tigah and Tiguar on this.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:54 am to
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Is this an example of what the doctor is implying?
No.

First off, "shedding" normally refers to viral particles. E.g., During contagious phases of Covid-19 infection, live virus is shed. Following infection, dead viral particles may be shed for weeks.

It is also possible to incur viral shedding after live-attenuated vaccines (a weakened/attenuated version of virus). But that does not apply to CV19 vaxes. None of the CV19 versions are LAV's.

Second, CV19 Vax derived S-protein does not reach shed tissue (your wife's epithelial cells).

Third, even if s-protein could somehow shed, it would have no practical way of accessing another's bloodstream. Inhaled or consumed inanimate protein is rapidly destroyed.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32203 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:55 am to
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BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
I know a little bit about Tiguar's and NC-Tigah's credentials. Just curious, what are yours and what qualifies you to interpret so many mixed signals on the harms vs efficacy of the vaccines. Not sure why you are so passionate about it. Take it or don't. Not sure why you want to attempt to dissuade so many from the fear standpoint.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:55 am to
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I didn't see him call the vaccine poison in the testimony. 


He addresses this in the interview posted in the OP. Testimony was in March, and he says with every passing month, as more data is released, he warns against it.

He specifically calls it poison in the interview I posted not in his testimony that you watched .
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:00 am
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30380 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:56 am to
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Do no harm is what led us in the past. Today, not so much.


I think this is the crux of the argument. They should post the risks and let people decide.
Thankfully most of us have a choice for now.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:00 am to
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He explains that the ball with the spike proteins clearly gets into all of the bodily fluids secretions. They have the one clear case of the mother passing it through her breastmilk to her baby and the baby dying.

Please tell me McCullough didn't actually say that.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:06 am to
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Please tell me McCullough didn't actually say that.


Why?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:09 am to
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I don't have a problem with VAERS counting deaths FROM the vaccine together with deaths WITH the vaccine
Nor do I. VAERS is designed to collect all associated events whether suspected 2° to vax or not. Over time those events are determined as vax related or unrelated. A vast majority of events fall in the latter category.

The problem is BeNotDeceivedGal posts indicate a continued ignorant belief that VAERS cases each represent a vax complication.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:09 am to
quote:

I know a little bit about Tiguar's and NC-Tigah's credentials. Just curious, what are yours and what qualifies you to interpret so many mixed signals on the harms vs efficacy of the vaccines.



So, attack the messenger not the message?

quote:

Not sure why you want to attempt to dissuade so many from the fear standpoint.


Hahaha isn't everyone being persuaded to take the vaccine from a fear standpoint?
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14972 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:09 am to
Excellent post. Thanks.
Posted by ShockTroop
Georgia
Member since Aug 2020
679 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:10 am to
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Please tell me McCullough didn't actually say that.


NC_Tigah,
Can you link me to any videos you’ve done for any news network or government officials?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:10 am to
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quote:

Please tell me McCullough didn't actually say that.
Why?
Because it would be fricking retarded.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:13 am to
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quote:
quote:
Please tell me McCullough didn't actually say that.
Why?
Because it would be fricking retarded.


Why?
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