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re: Dr. with credentials a mile long says vaccine is poison, warns against it

Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:43 am to
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:43 am to
Opinions, assholes. You know the saying.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:43 am to
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You aren't accounting for age, obesity and metabolic health.

My main point with the vaccine right now is, any healthy, non-obese person under 60 has absolutely nothing to gain by getting the vaccine. Especially if you've already had it.

If it works the way it purportedly does then the vulnerable should get it and everyone stfu about it.

If it doesn't work the way it is purported to work, then who cares anyway?




Agree but the loons are not going to like that.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:44 am to
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It's absolutely dishonest to throw out the "take it or don't" comment in the current world environment. The entire developed world is actively discussing mandates, passports, and employer requirements. Additionally, we are quickly approaching a point where the unvaxxed will be blamed, harassed, and ostracized - even if the data doesn't match the hysteria.
That is a slightly different argument.

The OP repeatedly tosses out BS anti-vax Fear Porn posts.

You're addressing something different. Rational discussion as to governmental intrusion into personal health decisions certainly has merit.

Vax availability is a nonissue. Anyone who wants it can get it. People can take it or not. Each should be able to make an individual decision, and leave others to make theirs.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38357 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:47 am to
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The entire response to COVID-19, including the newest variant, has been largely emotional.

I would say politics was the driver but I suppose politics is an emotional behavior.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7439 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:48 am to
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(1) Because """the ball with the spike proteins""" does not get into breastmilk,
(2) AND even if by some freak-of-nature miracle ""the ball with the spike proteins"" did access breastmilk, the particle count would be infinitesimally small,
(3) AND even if the particle (the ball with the spike proteins) count was miraculously significant, alimentary processes would tear it up.


Can you point me to the research on this?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:48 am to
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then I see you post this bullshite. Do you really have faith in any numbers VAERS or the CDC gives us.
Someone doesn't know WTF VAERS is. Someone should know such things before engaging about VAERS (or any topic) in that manner on this forum.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:51 am to
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Can you point me to the research on this?
On your level
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7439 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:52 am to
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You're addressing something different. Rational discussion as to governmental intrusion into personal health decisions certainly has merit.


So, tell me, when has any information that challenges your stance on the COVID vax been worthy of your rational discussion? It seems like you just instantly attack the people involved and disregard the data.

What data will be suitable for discussion?
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:53 am to
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“Shedding can occur, they believe, for at least 4 weeks after vaccine. Says not to kiss, have sex, breast feed, share utensils etc in that timeframe.”


So the vaxxed are actually the threat? Irony at its best.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13149 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:54 am to
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So answer me this, did you take the Trump vaccine?


You know he did!
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7439 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:55 am to
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Can you point me to the research on this?

On your level


So, when you are asked for resources and are given the chance to edify me, you resort to this?




But my credibility is questionable? Got it.

If you're such an authority on the matter why won't you bring a valid argument?
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:58 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:10 am to
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So, tell me, when has any information that challenges your stance on the COVID vax
I doubt you know WTF my "stance on the COVID vax" is. But I'll clarify it for you. The mRNA vax versions are outstanding. The immunity conferred is superb. Compared with traditional vaccines, complications such as Guillain-Barré should be reduced.

However, any medical intervention comes with potential risk. RvB is a critical consideration. If the cure is worse than the disease, one should choose the disease. In terms of CV19, that is the case with kids, adolescents, and perhaps 20-somethings.

No civilian should be forced or extorted into taking a vax.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:15 am to
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I doubt you know WTF my "stance on the COVID vax" is. But I'll clarify it for you. The mRNA vax versions are outstanding. The immunity conferred is superb. Compared with traditional vaccines, complications such as Guillain-Barré should be reduced. However, any medical intervention comes with potential risk. RvB is a critical consideration. If the cure is worse than the disease, one should choose the disease. In terms of CV19, that is the case with kids, adolescents, and perhaps 20-somethings. No civilian should be forced or extorted into taking a vax.


Well, that is part of the problem isn't it.

Governments and others are pushing it or forcing it to a degree, yet they act like it doesn't work.

The vaccine (or virus) isn't the problem, its people.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 10:17 am
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
4303 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:19 am to
LOL! A month. Oh my dude, that monster is just getting familiar with its new pad before it stops paying rent and wrecking shite.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:19 am to
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given the chance to edify me
I've spent too much time in that effort already.
As I said, "From Chewing to Pooing" seemed level appropriate.

Want something more advanced? Learn how to use a search engine and edify yourself.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38357 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:20 am to
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quote:
“Shedding can occur, they believe, for at least 4 weeks after vaccine. Says not to kiss, have sex, breast feed, share utensils etc in that timeframe.”


So the vaxxed are actually the threat? Irony at its best.

quote:

No Sign of COVID-19 Vaccine in Breast Milk
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2021/07/421041/no-sign-covid-19-vaccine-breast-milk

You can find whatever you want your mindset to be on the Internet.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173720 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:20 am to
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If you're such an authority on the matter why won't you bring a valid argument?

Because you're clearly too stupid and/or crazy to participate in such a discussion
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22066 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:20 am to
at least this Dr. appears to be following actual science. Kudos to him and thanks for sharing.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12835 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:24 am to
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You know he did!
I did. Not because I'm scared of the virus or because some politician told me to.

The health facility my grandfather is at requires proof of vaccination to visit. He was a major influence on my life and is in poor health. I was hesitant about getting it for a long time, but when I pondered over either getting the vaccine or possibly never seeing him in person again the answer became pretty simple to me.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22066 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:25 am to
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The risk should not outweigh the virus. I trust doctors to decide this.


The problem is doctors dont know shite about this. You might as well be asking a used car salesman who slept at a holiday inn express last night to weigh the risks vs the virus for you.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 10:29 am
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