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Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:13 am to Diamondawg
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Not sure why you are so passionate about it. Take it or don't. Not sure why you want to attempt to dissuade so many from the fear standpoint.
I'm not answering for the OP, for perhaps for people with similar viewpoints.
It's absolutely dishonest to throw out the "take it or don't" comment in the current world environment. The entire developed world is actively discussing mandates, passports, and employer requirements. Additionally, we are quickly approaching a point where the unvaxxed will be blamed, harassed, and ostracized - even if the data doesn't match the hysteria.
In the face of what I mention above, many people get "passionate" in an effort to demonstrate why it would be irresponsible to require/pressure/force this vaccine given the very valid concerns over safety.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:17 am to ShockTroop
quote:So TV guys are the authority.
NC_Tigah,
Can you link me to any videos you’ve done for any news network or government officials?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:18 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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It's a genuine question. Didn't Donald Trump take credit for operation warp speed which resulted in the fastest creation of a vaccine ever? Didn't he brag about rolling back some of the regulations that typically occur with vaccines so that we could get it out quicker? Didn't he say that everyone told him it would be impossible to get a vaccine out this quick but he did it?
The FDA's bureaucracy can spend weeks agonizing over the placement of a colon or semi-colon in a footnote.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:18 am to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
quote:No, not at all. You apparently thought it important to mention this doctor's "credentials a mile long" as to his credibility. Just trying to establish your credibility or ability to take complex, scientific data and break it down as to good info vs nonsense.
So, attack the messenger not the message?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:18 am to NC_Tigah
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Nor do I. VAERS is designed to collect all associated events whether suspected 2° to vax or not. Over time those events are determined as vax related or unrelated. A vast majority of events fall in the latter category.
NC_Tigah,
I’ve seen people say they trust your credentials but then I see you post this bullshite. Do you really have faith in any numbers VAERS or the CDC gives us. Any person with half a brain (except cajunangelle) understands there is an agenda to manipulate the numbers to fit their narrative.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:19 am to Powerman
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Even if you believe the made up 45K number that would result in a significantly lower mortality rate than acquiring the virus
I would hope so!
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:24 am to tigersbh
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Even if you believe the made up 45K number that would result in a significantly lower mortality rate than acquiring the virus
Not with children.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:26 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
It was actually the head of Baylor School of Medicine and he is the personal cardiologist of the wife of a friend who is a retired med school prof/researcher. The couple has been taking HCQ weekly for over a year now.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:27 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Bayou_Tiger_225
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:29 am to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Dr. Jill Biden says vaccine is good.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:31 am to ShockTroop
My last post says there is indeed an agenda-political and cronyism of a FREE vaccine that someone has to pay for.; and I don't trust the FDA as they have been proven in court to be bought.
The risk should not outweigh the virus. I trust doctors to decide this.
It is also convoluted regarding the AGE someone should get the vax.
Most pushing this threads title in here have no discernment potential as they have pushed some hokey fringe in the past.
The risk should not outweigh the virus. I trust doctors to decide this.
It is also convoluted regarding the AGE someone should get the vax.
Most pushing this threads title in here have no discernment potential as they have pushed some hokey fringe in the past.
quote:Very well put by another poster.
Just trying to establish your credibility or ability to take complex, scientific data and break it down as to good info vs nonsense.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:32 am to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
quote:(1) Because """the ball with the spike proteins""" does not get into breastmilk,
Why?
(2) AND even if by some freak-of-nature miracle ""the ball with the spike proteins"" did access breastmilk, the particle count would be infinitesimally small,
(3) AND even if the particle (the ball with the spike proteins) count was miraculously significant, alimentary processes would tear it up.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:32 am to LSUfan20005
quote:I'll get back with you when we establish her credentials as to a scientific based passion vs an emotional one.
In the face of what I mention above, many people get "passionate" in an effort to demonstrate why it would be irresponsible to require/pressure/force this vaccine given the very valid concerns over safety.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:32 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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It's a genuine question. Didn't Donald Trump take credit for operation warp speed which resulted in the fastest creation of a vaccine ever? Didn't he brag about rolling back some of the regulations that typically occur with vaccines so that we could get it out quicker? Didn't he say that everyone told him it would be impossible to get a vaccine out this quick but he did it?
Funny because Biden loves to take all the credit. It’s always me, me, me, me in every press conference he has about the Vaccine.
I’m sure if it does go down hill, he will blame Trump in typical Democrat fashion…..
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:34 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:33 am to Diamondawg
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Just trying to establish your credibility or ability to take complex, scientific data and break it down as to good info vs nonsense.
Did I claim to breakdown the scientific data? No, I simply brought information to the board from a source, whose credentials I included to establish the relevance of his authority on the subject. I will leave it up to the readers to discern what is good info vs nonsense.
When I see certain information, or those bringing it, being banned from the news, social media, and the public in general, it makes me curious why such a concerted effort is being made to block their research rather than investigate it.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:34 am to Diamondawg
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an emotional one
The entire response to COVID-19, including the newest variant, has been largely emotional.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:37 am to Diamondawg
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I'll get back with you when we establish her credentials as to a scientific based passion vs an emotional one.
Isn't pressuring the entire world to take an experimental mRNA vaccine, the first of it's kind, out of patriotic duty or the greater good of society, based on emotions? I don't see science there when COVID has a 99.8% survival rate.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:37 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:37 am to CitizenK
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t was actually the head of Baylor School of Medicine and he is the personal cardiologist of the wife of a friend who is a retired med school prof/researcher. The couple has been taking HCQ weekly for over a year now.
It was both, the Baylor Dr. and the A&M Dr. I remember well.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:40 am to Powerman
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significantly lower mortality rate than acquiring the virus
You aren't accounting for age, obesity and metabolic health.
My main point with the vaccine right now is, any healthy, non-obese person under 60 has absolutely nothing to gain by getting the vaccine. Especially if you've already had it.
If it works the way it purportedly does then the vulnerable should get it and everyone stfu about it.
If it doesn't work the way it is purported to work, then who cares anyway?
Eta: had *it* as in the virus. And when I say "absolutely," that is just a figure of speech. I actually mean, on balance, the cost-benefit analysis says skip it.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 10:03 am
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