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re: DOJ subpoenas (suddenly) withdrawn in John Brennan investigation after Joe diGenova joins

Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:27 pm to
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Drop a couple of F bombs so I know it's you Mr Ed...


I don't fricking cuss all the time, damnit. Stop saying that stupid shite.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167573 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:54 pm to
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The lying to Congress charge is a laughably thin theory of the crime but it’s all they have.

The “grand conspiracy” nonsense is more Q hopium from the usual suspects. Surprising to see some of you fall for it again.
I get your overall gist but if anybody lied to Congress that slimy communist John Brennan did.

What do I know, but I think the grand conspiracy stuff is for the Florida grand jury. You know where they unlawfully raided a president's private home. These are the Classified documents that John Thune is blocking. I do believe they are testimony behind closed doors transcripts.

I really do believe that a very good team of lawyers can show a grand conspiracy that indeed breaks all SOLs. Brennan... Susan Rice.. Mostly all of them were on TV flapping their mouths within the last five years.

You don't think that they did anything wrong towards Trump or Michael Flynn.... So of course you'll never see a grand conspiracy...

The Brennan perjury charge had to be brought in DC because that's where he committed it.

They all lied like rugs under oath to Congress... Clapper.. Brennan... Sally Yates... Rosenstein... that Goofball couple whose wife was operating a ham radio...

It sounds too grand for just one small case of perjury.


This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 9:56 pm
Posted by Bob_Sugar
Member since Mar 2026
121 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:57 pm to
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Joseph diGenova


Is not going to mess around.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20880 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 2:30 am to
In our face corruption with ZERO accountability
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37614 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 6:12 am to
This is probably the correct answer or close to the correct answer. DiGenova was brought in for a specific purpose, but he's an experienced prosecutor, so he's doing things that an experienced prosecutor would do so as not to waste the Grand Jury's time. I would suspect he's withdrawing subpoenas for third party witnesses. He's not cutting Brennan or Clapper any slack as they are "targets"

Plus, isn't this GJ in South Florida? Why would a DC Grand Jury be involved? Is there a parallel investigation that they aren't mentioning?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 6:23 am to
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Plus, isn't this GJ in South Florida? Why would a DC Grand Jury be involved? Is there a parallel investigation that they aren't mentioning?
Subpoenas issued for witnesses to appear before a grand jury in Washington could signal that prosecutors were preparing for an indictment in that venue rather than Florida. That would explain the change in leadership.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39718 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 6:36 am to
The ‘Grand Conspiracy’ charge in Florida is the only way any thing moves forward to a degree that causes the rats to panic and flip. DC is nothing.

Look to Trump’s MO. Venezuela, Iran and Cuba soon enough. Lawyerly ‘talk’ is useless in ‘he said/she said’ scenarios, and said talk is just a stall tactic for the guilty targets to stall and rearm. What coordinated Conspiracy based mass arrests would do is to provoke Dems into a ‘Karen-esque’ rage and street meltdown. With the resulting scenario being the only viable solution re a true ‘draining of the swamp’. Military Courts. With the feckless Supreme Court sidelined. (Which the Dems will pack if they win the Midterms).

May sound over the top but so would Iran and Venezuela a few years back. It’s approaching do or die time for Trump and MAGA. Anything is on the table.

We’ll know pretty soon. November most likely.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32762 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:06 am to
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I get your overall gist but if anybody lied to Congress that slimy communist John Brennan did.


Vibes-based prosecution.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:09 am to
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What do I know, but I think the grand conspiracy stuff is for the Florida grand jury.


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The Brennan perjury charge had to be brought in DC because that's where he committed it.


If the "grand conspiracy" can be brought in Florida, this perjury charge can, since that theory ignores the rules on proper venue and conspiracy charges
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:09 am to
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The ‘Grand Conspiracy’ charge in Florida is the only way any thing moves forward to a degree that causes the rats to panic and flip. DC is nothing.

Look to Trump’s MO. Venezuela, Iran and Cuba soon enough. Lawyerly ‘talk’ is useless in ‘he said/she said’ scenarios, and said talk is just a stall tactic for the guilty targets to stall and rearm. What coordinated Conspiracy based mass arrests would do is to provoke Dems into a ‘Karen-esque’ rage and street meltdown. With the resulting scenario being the only viable solution re a true ‘draining of the swamp’. Military Courts. With the feckless Supreme Court sidelined. (Which the Dems will pack if they win the Midterms).

May sound over the top but so would Iran and Venezuela a few years back. It’s approaching do or die time for Trump and MAGA. Anything is on the table.


This is the retarded boomer nonsense I’ve been talking about.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24023 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:10 am to
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I mean DeGenova is absolutely going to indict someone. It’s the sole reason he was the replacement.


Does this mean some of the conspirators are at the very least spending real bucks on their legal fees? It's the least we can hope for.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:18 am to
I’d imagine the motion to dismiss for vindictive prosecution is already drafted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:24 am to
And the no jurisdiction/improper venue ones.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19987 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:44 am to
Thanks Boosie.

So I wonder if the girl who was let go was put under pressure to stop stonewalling, so on her way out she sent subpoenas and sprinkled in a bunch of strozaks to taint the testimony as someone else posted.

Good to know others were watching this unfold and let her go.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:01 am to
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1. Brennan falsely denied that the CIA relied on the discredited Steele dossier in drafting the post-election Intelligence Community Assessment.

"On January 6, 2017, the CIA, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and National Security Agency published a declassified version of an Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) ... In July 2025, the Trump Administration declassified numerous documents showing that the ICA's main findings were false and that the Obama Administration knowingly fabricated the findings for the purpose of undermining the Trump Administration.

"The newly declassified evidence also confirms that Brennan falsely testified to the Committee. During a transcribed interview on May 11, 2023, Brennan stated that 'the CIA was not involved at all with the [Steele] dossier.'

"A report drafted by HPSCI in 2017, and recently declassified, shows Brennan’s testimony to be false. According to the report, the ICA included supporting evidence for the ICA's false claim that Russia 'aspired' to help President Trump win the election. The report directed the reader to review 'Annex A' for 'additional reporting from an FBI Source on Russian influence efforts.' Annex A, which was only included in the highest classified version of the ICA, was a two-page summary of the Steele dossier along with 'some analysis that struggled to imply that some dossier findings might have been corroborated by intelligence.' The CIA officer who served as the lead author of the ICA told HPSCI that he drafted Annex A 'in coordination with [the] FBI.'

"Ultimately, according to documents declassified by the Trump Administration, the decision to incorporate information from the Steele dossier in the ICA 'was jointly made by the Directors of CIA and FBI[.]' A senior FBI analyst confirmed this fact, telling HPSCI that, after debating for several days whether to include information from the dossier, 'upper levels [at FBI and CIA] decided to put it in.'

"Brennan's assertion that the CIA was not 'involved at all' with the Steele dossier cannot be reconciled with the facts. As the newly declassified documents show, a CIA officer drafted the annex containing a summary of the dossier; Brennan made the ultimate decision, along with then-FBI Director James Comey, to include information from the dossier in the ICA; and, as discussed further below, Brennan overruled senior CIA officers who objected to the inclusion of the dossier material.

2. Mr. Brennan falsely testified when he told the Committee that the CIA opposed including the Steele dossier in the ICA.

"Brennan testified that 'the CIA was very much opposed to having any reference or inclusion of the Steele dossier in the Intelligence Community Assessment.'

"This claim is contradicted by multiple sources that reveal Brennan's support for including the dossier in the ICA. According to a CIA memorandum declassified by the Trump Administration, when two CIA mission center leaders confronted Brennan with 'specific flaws' in the dossier, Brennan disregarded their concerns, 'appear[ing] more swayed by the [d]ossier's general conformity with existing theories than by legitimate tradecraft concerns.' Brennan later 'formalized his position in writing, stating that "my bottomline is that I believe that the information warrants inclusion in the report."' Similarly, the HPSCI report notes that when senior CIA officers demanded that Brennan remove the Steele dossier from the ICA, Brennan 'refused to remove it.' When the officers presented evidence of the dossier’s 'many flaws,' Brennan responded, 'Yes, but doesn’t it ring true?' Ultimately, Brennan had to order [the dossier] included over the objections of [CIA] professonals.'

"As the newly declassified documents demonstrate, Brennan eagerly wanted to include information from the Steele dossier in the ICA, a fact Brennan himself documented in writing. This directly contradicts Brennan’s testimony that 'the CIA was very much opposed to having any reference or inclusion of the Steele dossier in the [ICA]' because as the Director of the CIA, Brennan spoke for the Agency.

3. Brennan also provided false testimony during a HPSCI hearing in 2017.

"On May 23, 2017, Brennan testified before HPSCI at an open hearing titled 'Russian Active Measures During the 2016 Election Campaign.' During the hearing, Brennan falsely asserted that the Steele dossier 'was not in any way used as a basis for the Intelligence Community assessment that was done.' Although this statement was made beyond the five-year statute of limitations, it indicates a pattern of Brennan's willingness to lie to Congress about the Steele dossier.

"As discussed above, the HPSCI report and the CIA memorandum confirm not only that the Steele dossier was used as a basis for the ICA, but that Brennan insisted on its inclusion. This stands in stark contrast with Brennan's testimony to HPSCI that the dossier was not used in drafting the ICA. Brennan's testimony is also contradicted by the ICA itself, which references the dossier in the main body of the assessment and summarizes material from the dossier in an annex.

"In sum, Brennan's testimony before the Committee on May 11, 2023, was a brazen attempt to knowingly and willfully testify falsely and fictitiously to material facts. We therefore make this referral for the Department to examine whether any of Brennan’s testimony warrants a charge for the violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001."

Vibes-based prosecution ?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32762 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:03 am to
I’ve read Jordan’s letter. Yes, vibes-based.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:22 am to
There’s a lot of nuance in what Brennan said and what the documents show. That’s a tough needle to thread, especially in DC.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17137 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:55 am to
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Found the likely problem


The rare SFP upvote.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59300 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 10:46 am to
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We’re all waiting for the first indictment against……anybody.


Meet Kevin Clinesmith, the former FBI lawyer who was indeed prosecuted for flat-out lying about the CIA's work with Carter Page in order to help justify the fourth FISA renewal to spy on Page.

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