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DOJ & IRS going after users of Cryptocurrency. They want their "fair share"!

Posted on 5/7/21 at 5:41 pm
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 5:41 pm
DOJ

A federal court in the Northern District of California entered an order today authorizing the IRS to serve a John Doe summons on Payward Ventures Inc., and Subsidiaries d/b/a Kraken (Kraken) seeking information about U.S. taxpayers who conducted at least the equivalent of $20,000 in transactions in cryptocurrency during the years 2016 to 2020. The IRS is seeking the records of Americans who engaged in business with or through Kraken, a digital currency exchanger headquartered in San Francisco, California.

“Gathering the information in the summons approved today is an important step to ensure cryptocurrency owners are following the tax laws,” said Acting Assistant Attorney General David A. Hubbert of the Justice Department’s Tax Division. “Those who transact with cryptocurrency must meet their tax obligations like any other taxpayer.”

“There is no excuse for taxpayers continuing to fail to report the income earned and taxes due from virtual currency transactions,” said IRS Commissioner Chuck Rettig. “This John Doe summons is part of our effort to uncover those who are trying to skirt reporting and avoid paying their fair share.”

Cryptocurrency, as generally defined, is a digital representation of value. Because transactions in cryptocurrencies can be difficult to trace and have an inherently pseudoanonymous aspect, taxpayers may be using them to hide taxable income from the IRS. On April 1, 2021, a federal court in the District of Massachusetts granted an order authorizing the IRS to serve a similar John Doe summons on Circle, a digital currency exchange headquartered in Boston.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30048 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 5:47 pm to


anything you have of any value belongs to the government and they will always find a way to confiscate it
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 5:48 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41151 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 5:54 pm to
This was always going to happen. I still can’t believe they’ve let crypto get this far.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79209 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 6:01 pm to
Hope they sue and are told to eat a bag of d*cks
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67990 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 6:04 pm to
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There is no excuse for taxpayers continuing to fail to report the income



When the government turns on and betrays the people it was sworn to protect.

not only do the people have an excuse, but they have every right.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 6:36 pm to
Bidens America... people "wanted" him, and get what they asked for.

Lots of young people love them some crypto
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

Hope they sue and are told to eat a bag of d*cks


My guess is that Kraken uses the same or similar playbook as Coinbase did when this happened to them. IIRC they pushed back and the court ruled to a more narrow scope of Coinbase users.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14829 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:06 pm to
Did any one actually think crypto was going to elude the tax man?
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:08 pm to
Don’t sell your crypto, put it on a cold wallet, tell the IRS to go frick themselves. Problem solved.

If you sell crypto for cash on an exchange and think you are going to escape capital gains, yeah probably not a smart play.
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46151 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:09 pm to
Who’s surprised? The Fiat Global Monetary Cabal will not relinquish their control of the funny money....lol!
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

This was always going to happen. I still can’t believe they’ve let crypto get this far.


It isn’t something they can stop.

If they start cracking down on our ability to use exchanges, just use a decentralized exchange like Uniswap that can’t be targeted.

They can’t stop this thing.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46151 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

This was always going to happen. I still can’t believe they’ve let crypto get this far.


It isn’t something they can stop.

If they start cracking down on our ability to use exchanges, just use a decentralized exchange like Uniswap that can’t be targeted.

They can’t stop this thi


One thing is for certain, a lot of speculators are hoping and praying the Global Monetary Cabal doesn’t figure out an angle to control crypto currency
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41151 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:32 pm to
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They can’t stop this thing.





Just wait until the federal reserve comes out with their crypto currency. The NSA or CIA will blow up the competing currencies. Our gov’t has a long history of destroying competition.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34955 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:35 pm to
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One thing is for certain, a lot of speculators are hoping and praying the Global Monetary Cabal doesn’t figure out an angle to control crypto currency



They don't have to control the Mechanism of Crypto (maybe they can't); but they can monitor and control the Person's transactions re goods and services received. And pile on extraordinarily punitive measures to discourage people who 'cheat'. Operate outside of the 'legit Government' mechanism, and down you go. There is no way the Totalitarian Fascists can tolerate rogues who break rank; it's like a herd of cows in a pen...if one cow gets their head through the gate...it's a stampede out of the pen.

"Lest ye take the number, neither will ye be able to buy and sell". It's coming. At least for a while.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:36 pm to
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They can’t stop this thing


You have to be kidding
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:38 pm to
All crypto users..."yes sir, I made transactions, then lost my phone with my wallet keys and therefore all was a complete loss. I'll be writing off those millions in losses. Thanks for reminding me"
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5021 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:47 pm to
1 corner some drug kinkpin
2 tell him in exchange for his freedom he has to purchase 500 M in fentanyl
Paid with bitcoin
3 release 500M of fentanyl on the US with 2000 ODs
4 Moms March on Washington to end fentanyl and the evil bitcoin used to support the deaths of our children
5 Bitcoin funeral
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:53 pm to
Banks will be next to regulate and destroy crypto


Mushbrain has no clue what crypto is, he thinks they are talking about the the dog superman had.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 8:29 pm to
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Just wait until the federal reserve comes out with their crypto currency.


An inferior product to existing cryptos? Sounds like a shitcoin to me. Doesn’t have transparent code I can trust that dictates scarcity nor a decentralized network to prevent fraud.

You should educate yourself on the crypto space man. It’s everything you want out of a sound, uncensorable monetary system. The only thing a government can touch are exchanges based on their sovereign soil. They have zero power over people holding crypto on a cold wallet or buying on foreign exchanges or decentralized exchanges.

It isn’t going to be stopped. Government will end up looking like fools if they push too hard on this as you seem to think they will
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 7:53 am
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1717 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 8:34 pm to
while it's riskier this is why some people choose the decentralized platforms and cold wallets.
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