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re: DOGE: FedGov has ~3M employees, ~4.6M credit cards/accounts

Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
13227 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:11 pm to
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Agreed, but they aren't filling up Air Force One with Donnie's Shell card.



True, never seen JP8 at the Shell.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16712 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:12 pm to
The U.S. government is the biggest scam pulled on people in the history of scams being pulled on people.

Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:15 pm to
Not that I disagree with cutting up most or all of this cards... does your number of employees include military personnel? We had "travel cards" for flights and hotels and stuff in the military as well.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35495 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:16 pm to
Does this include military?

Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8877 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Does this include military?

i would assume so
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3401 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:22 pm to
There are "virtual cards" these days that are cards designated to specific vendor providing a recurring expense. Also, the federal govt uses a govt certified vendor that verifies credit card expenses are not fraudulent and it flags anomalies.

My guess is DOGE is not going to find much savings from the credit cards.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
21062 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:24 pm to
Even if working from home they still have to drive to Popeye's for lunch.

18 times a week.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11780 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:24 pm to
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A lot of what I think you are referring to should be more likely to be funneled to an account tied to fuel tanks at a location rather than a card/account per vehicle.

Here you go
Government Fuel Card Program DLA Fuel Card
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 1:26 pm
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5384 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:26 pm to
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Most if not all employees get a travel card used specific for traveling and another for other purchases (pcards), but those don't get handed out all willy nilly.


How many people do you actually think have to do any type of travelling as part of their job. My uncle worked for the veteran affairs (biggest employer of the Fed gov't) and he went to the exact same clinic every day. No house calls, no training trips. Same place every day for decades. That is your typical federal employee.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35495 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:34 pm to
And your typical military person doesn't have a card either, so that brings the average card per employee way up.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:03 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/1/25 at 1:52 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:12 pm to
This is like saying we observed over 3 million unique pieces of clothing on 1 million govt employees, how are they affording so much clothing?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38357 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:17 pm to
I always had to use my own card and do expense reports with receipts.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11012 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:21 pm to
Are these credit card expenses cleared on an expense acct form approved by a supervisor? Thats the system the private company I worked for, used for 30 years. Company credit cards are well known areas of theft. Should be the same for govt
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

Huh? Everyone has a travel card. Wait until DOGE discovers the government also pays for multiple passports for each person.


No they don’t. Everyone that travels has a card, maybe. But a huge portion of federal employees never leave the building they work in.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35495 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:22 pm to
Enlisted personnel has credit cards?
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:22 pm to
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How many people do you actually think have to do any type of travelling as part of their job. My uncle worked for the veteran affairs (biggest employer of the Fed gov't) and he went to the exact same clinic every day. No house calls, no training trips. Same place every day for decades. That is your typical federal employee.


Now tally up the accounts for sending out mail and packages with the VA, like when they mail medications or devices. You have employees that get paid from two different areas, that get base salary pay, then maybe a bonus of some sort, or school loan repayment, etc. Then look at the research grants and payments that get processed to a consultant, to UPS for delivering surveys to people, all the different places that one research grant has to send money to, and then how these things will all generate new accounts each FY while accounts from older FY's are still going to be active to process payments that occurred in the prior FY and so on and so on.

Some of these posts from DOGE remind me of small children discovering a bag of marbles for the first time. Look at all the colors!
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11012 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:32 pm to
stealing marbles is a well known cause of school yard violence
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35926 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Most if not all employees get a travel card used specific for traveling and another for other purchases (pcards), but those don't get handed out all willy nilly.


That seems absurd to me. I just don’t believe that even 20% of federal employees need a credit card.
What percentage in the private sector require a company card? It should be similar at fedgov.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16768 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:46 pm to
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Don't think there are any on the govt cards, but when we used to travel using DTS we were prompted to use our own skymiles and hotel rewards accounts even tho the govt was paying. DOGE should change that so the govt gets the cash equivalent of these miles/points




I get 2% cash back on every purchase. If the Fed gov used the same credit card I do, they'd have $800m cash sitting in an account.
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