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re: Does the possibility of Bush/Ryan/Rove support of RDS bother RDS supporters?

Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:04 pm to
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I believe they hate Trump so bad,


I don't hate him, he's just a shitty leader.

I am not tied to any single candidate, but I'm not voting for that loser.
Posted by tigerfan 64
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:04 pm to
Who do you think supports the trade policies with china? The globalist do.

I'm fine with stronger trade with CA nations and less from china. Chinas IP theft is unrivaled. Gates and Apple can suffer that marriage.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467164 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:05 pm to
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Would take time, years, of course but is a path that should be approached.

It's the only way to "close the border"

There is a reason why Mexican illegal immigration has decreased and that reason is economic development of Mexico. If they have opportunities at home they won't try to come here illegally
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467164 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:06 pm to
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Who do you think supports the trade policies with china?

Consumers, especially in this inflationary environment

The market is catering to it's population, like capitalism is supposed to
Posted by tigerfan 64
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Member since Sep 2016
6153 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:15 pm to
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Consumers, especially in this inflationary environment

Do you think domestic production would boost the economic benefits to our economy? Our economy would get the boost from raw materials demand, production demands and consumer demands. Foreign production only benefits the purchase demands.

P.S.
My downvoter is free to tell me where I'm wrong, or lead me in a better direction.
Convince me.

This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 3:12 pm
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2656 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:25 pm to
the Bush/Ryan/Rove support is likely due to their TDS rather than love for RDS.

Now if DeSantis actively encourages, desires, and uses their support... I would question that decision.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21881 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:27 pm to
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Now if DeSantis actively encourages, desires, and uses their support... I would question that decision.

Why would it bother you that he uses their support as long as he's in alignment with you on the most important policy/governing matters?
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2656 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:42 pm to
i dont trust them to not try to move him off those positions...

Same way i questioned some of Trump's decisions regarding personnel etc.

Personally I wish RDS would sit this one out, keep my state of FL on the right track and take no prisoners in 2028. Let Trump rise to the top again or flame out on his own.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:43 pm to
No. Not by itself.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52481 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:01 pm to
It doesn’t bother me. In fact, that’s what we need. Unless you can show me the math that gets us to an electoral college victory without the moderates in the GOP.

I’ll go even further. An electoral college victory doesn’t do enough. We have to start carrying a majority of the American voters, like we did in the last congressional election. You know - the one in which Trump wasn’t on the ticket.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53910 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:06 pm to
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There's no way many Trump voters here will be posting again if Ron wins. They've gone too far. How can they vote for someone that Bush/Ryan/Rover "support?"


I’m not talking on this forum, I’m talking the general populace….lol
Posted by tigerfan 64
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Member since Sep 2016
6153 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:14 pm to
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Why would it bother you that he uses their support as long as he's in alignment with you on the most important policy/governing matters?

Then the same should hold true for DJT, wouldn't it?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21881 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:44 pm to
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Then the same should hold true for DJT, wouldn't it?

Of course. It doesn't bother me at all that Lindsey Graham supports DT. I'm more focused on what Trump accomplished and what he failed at in his first term. If presidents served 3-year terms, I'd be all on the Trump train. Unfortunately, it's a 4-year term and 2020 happened.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42061 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:48 pm to
Yes
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:05 pm to
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Who do you think supports the trade policies with china? The globalist do.


Consumers mostly.

Even you. Its helped lift people economically.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:08 pm to
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Well for one, how do you feel about the US being dependent on the CCP for medicines, medical ppe, industrial and tech equipment?


The way to change China is through trade.

How about instead of wanting to push populist policies on the entire nation, y'all just practice them at home and let the rest of us figure out a responsible method.
Posted by tigerfan 64
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Member since Sep 2016
6153 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:42 pm to
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responsible method.

Are these the same methods that got us where we are now, or different methods?

New, responsible methods created by the same people that created the old methods?
Break it down.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23313 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 7:16 pm to
Ron needs to get out of the way, for now.

Unless he can secure the nomination, which he probably cannot, give TRUMP his final shot and move on.

PS: He has not filed for official candidacy, yet.
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