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re: Does the Iran dust up bother you that much or is it just an excuse to hate Trump?

Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:12 am to
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10696 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:12 am to
It’s absolutely just for them to hate Trump.


Iran literally said they wanted democrats to win and then said the fall of America has been expedited after they did.

Democrats are the epitome of dishonest hypocrites
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
25629 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:12 am to
Iran being put in check was long, long over due.

They’ve been directly and indirectly killing Americans since they stormed the embassy. Hell, my son was on an op a few years ago to do a vehicle interdiction to grab a couple Houthis and lo and behold an IRC general was in the vehicle as well. Several hundred miles into Iraq.


I like that Trump put them in check.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17658 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:13 am to
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It’s absolutely just for them to hate Trump.


If you saw the trump boys capitalizing on this war through the military industrial complex, would that matter to you?
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23531 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:14 am to
I mean this has lasted longer than they said and has actual impact here, so I can see why some people are bothered.

But I will say, I’m not sure why Iran isn’t seen as the clear bad guy at this point from an international level. They get attacked over a multi-decade conflict over weapon development, and they decide to attempt to hold an international waterway hostage indefinitely…just seems like something a hostile regime would do
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17658 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:15 am to
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Diesel was like 8.20 Nov 3rd Its 7.20 last night


What was it a year ago?
This post was edited on 11/11/26 at 7:26 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
16079 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:17 am to
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That's an issue for a lot of people. This administration hasn't earned that sort of trust.


O.k., but unless you're willing to assume that our intel (which was Iran announcing to our officials directly that they had near weapons grade materials) was a complete hoax, it was still the right thing to do IMO even if Trump's motivation was some other reason.

I'm not willing to assume that in this case. The stakes are too high to do so IMO, which has been my thing all along.

It's one thing to bet on someone being full of it if the consequences for being wrong are mild or non-existent.

It's another thing to bet on someone being full of it if the consequences for being wrong are catastrophic. Which I believe they would be in this case if it turned out that Iran was telling the truth.

And it would be one thing if it were only Trump saying Iran cannot be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons, but it's literally been every POTUS since 1979.

Even Biden said he would use force to prevent it.

And I think that's because they have advisors who understand how leaders think in a fundamentalist theocracy who share dirt with their sworn religious enemy in a religion that teaches suicide missions as the most exalted act someone can undertake in their theology.

I don't think we understand that. The average person here thinks there's no chance they would actually use it if they had it. Every POTUS since 1979 seems to think otherwise, and I can't think of one other thing they've all agreed upon.

Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
8080 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:20 am to
It’s for them to hate Trump. They can’t tell you how it’s affected them. They also won’t be drafted off their couch so I don’t understand the outrage.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21719 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:24 am to
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Nothing changed in Iran wtf. Ppl are so dumb with iran

Someone who was promising to resume bombing them for months, starting up after the midterms, then chickened out. Meanwhile Ukraine is still hitting refineries, so it's definitely not them who were sending prices up.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
12507 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:26 am to
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You cant make campaign promises then break every one


Oh FFS, he didn't break every promise. This is the childish response typical of conservatives these days.

All you guys do is prove you can't be objective when you act melodramatic like this. Mature people can accept that Trump has done good and bad. TDS people cannot.
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4622 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:28 am to
It was less than 4 dollars a gallon before this war started. High fuel prices make the price of everything go up. I swear some of you understand these economics when democrats are in charge but when republicans are in charge it goes in one ear and out the other.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
102298 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:29 am to
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Meanwhile Ukraine is still hitting refineries, so it's definitely not them who were sending prices up.


Yet you Dems want to keep funding that forever war

You clowns love war yet claimed you dont.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
9321 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:29 am to
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It’s a soothing technique. If the focus can be turned on individuals then it becomes an insult party. They all bring a dish and cheap beer and hurl insults.

That way, the actual topic can be avoided.

If you will notice, all the threads that are questions are the same. They are intended to soothe.

It’s kinda funny

I know. Is why I really enjoy that I have always been an aggitator. I love making smooth brains feel uncomfortable. Even if I may agree on most things with same said smooth brain, I will still pick that scab. I think that comes from being a coonass raised in the 70's. We thought that was fun back then.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
9321 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:32 am to
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 I don’t understand the outrage.

After seeing the midterm results and how the Dems were able to frame affordability around the actions taken in Iran, you still do not understand why some Trump supporters may not like the campaign in Iran?

Really?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
29343 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:32 am to
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O.k., but unless you're willing to assume that our intel (which was Iran announcing to our officials directly that they had near weapons grade materials) was a complete hoax,


Our intel can simply be wrong, not a hoax. Terrorists claim to have shite all the time that they don't have.

Iran has a motivation to lie about being further along than they are, because countries with nukes don't get messed with that much. Depending on their strategy Iran also has a motivation to lie about being further behind than they are. What they claim is essentially meaningless.

The bottom line is that neither one of us has any idea what their capabilities are. What we DO know is that the administration was wrong/lying last year or they're wrong/lying now. That's inescapable.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17658 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:35 am to
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They can’t tell you how it’s affected them. They also won’t be drafted off their couch so I don’t understand the outrage.


Bull crap. We’re impacted.

High fuel prices
Removal of the jones act to protect American workers
Disruption in European alliance.
High prices on items delivered by vehicles that use fuel
Interest rates higher- due to inflation.
Losing control of senate and house.
Losing some red state governors.
Higher taxes to deal with the cost of- lag effect.

Why don’t you just admit that you didn’t believe trump when he said he wouldn’t start any new wars?

And let’s flip the question to how your life was so bad before we attacked Iran? Tell us.
This post was edited on 11/11/26 at 7:52 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
177148 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:37 am to
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Assuming the reason we went in there is the stated reason

The stated reason isn't even that clear
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
10290 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:48 am to
Need to read instead of listening to the same News Sources that ended Viet Nam.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
8080 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:48 am to
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Why don’t you just admit that you didn’t believe trump when he said he wouldn’t start any new wars?


I’m a realist and know shite changes. Was it dumb of him to say no new wars, sure. I’ve been on record many times saying I don’t have an issue as long as it didn’t turn into a contractors wet dream of a forever war with occupation.
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3986 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:52 am to
I seriously don't care what civilians think after last week. I don't even care if we shouldn't be there.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
22934 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:52 am to
Doesn't bother me at all. I just wish we'd nuke them.
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