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Does anybody believe progressives when they say they are for "Common Sense Gun Control"?

Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:56 am
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24752 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:56 am
I honestly don't believe it for one second that their end goal is he elimination of guns from the hands of all private citizens. They intend to ban, what they term assault weapons. When that doesn't work (and it won't), they will come back and tell us why that didn't work and strengthen the ban to include more and more guns, until all guns are banned.

If this is not true, I would like to hear from progressives what they consider to be "common sense" gun control measures and what they would be happy with as a permanent solution - not a first step.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:56 am to
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Does anybody believe progressives

No
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Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
12166 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:57 am to
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Wtodd


What he said
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:00 pm to
Banning of assault rifles totally and no I don’t know how to define that.

Longer waiting period
Drug test before purchase

Need to limit guns mental issues but not sure how

Limits on numbers and types of guns. No gun purchase under 18 at all. No bringing guns across state lines when one state says no.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24752 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:00 pm to
I would like to hear from Progressives on this board about what they consider to be common sense gun control, which is the catch phrase everyone is using, and yet, nobody defines it.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
762 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:05 pm to
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Banning of assault rifles totally and no I don’t know how to define that.


Therein lies the issue. Many people want some thing banned, but they cannot define the thing. That doesn't seem crazy to you?

The reason some of us think it is crazy is because the firearms commonly called 'Assault weapons' in the media and in conversations like this aren't really different from many, if not most, 'regular' firearms except in cosmetic ways.
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
12166 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:07 pm to
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I would like to hear from Progressives on this board about what they consider to be common sense gun control,



They want to ban everything that will kill someone..
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43338 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:08 pm to
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Banning of assault rifles totally and no I don’t know how to define that.



If you can't define it, why advocate for it?

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Need to limit guns mental issues but not sure how


Guns have mental issues?

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Limits on numbers


Infringement.

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and types of guns


We already have this.

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No gun purchase under 18 at all.


We already have this.

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No bringing guns across state lines when one state says no.


Constitution > State law


Your responses are exactly why people like you are not taken seriously.

Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37655 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:09 pm to
I contend that using "progressive" and "common sense" in the same sentence is oxymoronic.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
60611 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:09 pm to
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Does anybody believe progressives when they say they are for "Common Sense Gun Control"


Yes I do, the issue is common sense gun control is a phrase with no meaning and no perameters. It can essentially mean anything they want it to

To many of them, common sense gun control icludes bans

It is essentially a term that they used to appeal to the masses because it sounds nice but means nothing
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67105 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:12 pm to
No. Because every time, without fail, after a little bit of prodding, every single person who I have spoken to touting the “common sense” label and saying “no one is coming for your guns” admits, generally only about 5-10 minutes later, that they want to confiscate all guns. Every time, without fail, 100% of the time, they want to take our guns, but know that saying that isn’t going to get them there, so they use these bullshite proposals to inch closer in that direction.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32653 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:12 pm to
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To many of them, common sense gun control icludes bans


This

Many of them (expressed by those on the left here recently) that believe only single shot firearms be allowed and only when stored at a "secure" location.

This is why you cannot give an inch to the fascists
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:13 pm to
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It is essentially a term that they used to appeal to the masses because it sounds nice but means nothing


Right

I do believe that there are people that are for more moderate gun control measures

However the verbiage here seems like a bait and switch to me
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41685 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:14 pm to
I do. I believe that they believe that it is common sense to ban all guns except for military and law enforcement.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10929 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:18 pm to
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progressives
quote:

Common Sense





Nope
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98858 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:20 pm to
Yes.

Because I know in their minds this means confiscation.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:25 pm to
Can we get voter ID laws?

Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47638 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:27 pm to
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They want to ban everything that will kill someone..


we DON'T want to ban self defense type pistols. We want to ban the type of weapons that can kill a bunch of people in short order.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43338 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

we DON'T want to ban self defense type pistols.


What are these exactly?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111540 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:29 pm to
No.

Common sense for them is taking guns away from a bunch of people.
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