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Posted on 4/6/20 at 5:09 pm to FlexDawg
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Yet we still have ridiculousness such as this going on
The Deep State operatives embedded in this government do not want an end to this pandemic. They want to string this thing out AND they want a higher death toll.
Remember this. This Coronavirus did not orginate in a British lab, or a French lab, or a German lab, or even a lab in India. It originated in a Chinese lab. Last time I checked China is a sworn enemy of the United States. So where did Wee Sku Yu send all those 1000 ventilators his pals in the MSM reported? Did he send them to NOLA? Did he send them to Philadelphia? If you guessed New York City, a city led by Bill de Blasio, an avowed communist you guessed right. Birds of a feather........
Wake up America. What's a few million victims of Coronavirus to a bunch of commie, population control, global warming - climate change, Trump loathing radicals?
Connect the dots people.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 5:16 pm to the808bass
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I know a guy who got it and is on a vent and dialysis and will probably die.
I also know a guy who got better after taking the combo.
It’s not a panacea. It almost certainly helps. And we should be using it.
This
Practically every COVID inpatient who doesn't have a heart condition is getting this drug in NY and NJ. All the hospitals are sort of one system now, and we are absolutely burning through this drug. Most people are surviving, some people are dying. No one knows if it's the drug or not, no one is waiting to find out. If the goal is to have doctors prescribe this drug in mass to COvid patients, we have achieved success. If the goal is to have doctors and scientists confirm that hydroxychloroquine is a wonder drug that cures it completely. That's not going to happen until it is further studied.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 5:18 pm to Bham Bammer
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It’s working at times seems good enough for right now unless there is something else. Nobody is claiming it’s a 100 percent cure.
The OP is a guy claiming just that fwiw.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 5:19 pm to the808bass
Eh nm.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 5:24 pm to moneyg
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"Scientific Conclusion" isn't on the table with regards to how we move forward in the short term.
We don't have that luxury. Suggesting we wait for a "scientific conclusion" shows your lack of intelligence.
Don't people go through other treatments for various things without 100% success rate?
Posted on 4/6/20 at 5:36 pm to GeorgePaton
Are there really people crazy enough to think the virus was created in a Chinese lab and that Fauci (who is the absolute man at this point besides being a little stubborn on HC) is a deep state plant trying to hurt people? How do some of y’all get dressed in the morning?
Posted on 4/6/20 at 5:40 pm to keakar
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you responded to a thread yesterday saying that hydroxychloroquine works and your reply was
That’s not what I responded to. You obviously went back and looked. And you misquoted what I responded to. So you’re not retarded. You’re a liar.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 1:28 pm to the808bass
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You’re a liar.
an exact quote of your own post is a lie
your inability to admit you were wrong and had a change of heart after finding out you had it wrong all along is telling
you finally stopped listening to CNN talking points about the hydroxychloroquine so at least that is progress for you
Posted on 4/7/20 at 1:54 pm to FlexDawg
Fauci no like, not his idea. Would rob him of his glory.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 1:58 pm to keakar
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your inability to admit you were wrong and had a change of heart after finding out you had it wrong all along is telling
Shut up fig.
You said it’s never not worked. That’s obviously false. And that’s what I said was incorrect. Take the L and move along like the poof you are.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 4:24 pm to the808bass
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You said it’s never not worked. That’s obviously false.
then it should be easy to show me a link to where it was used on non ventilated carona patients that it wasnt 100% effective
12 countries are using it and over 50k test subjects cured out of 50k it was tried on in tests in those countries before they started wide spread use of it as the standard treatment
the only cases it hasnt cured the virus is for those who are already on ventilators and already near death
you were against it before and now you are for it, and thats ok, everyone makes mistakes
resorting to insults because you are caught trying to deny it is just silly
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 4:26 pm to VOR
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That’s very intriguing, but it has little or no significance in terms of a scientific conclusion.
The aversion to trying this because Trump mentioned it first would be hilarious if not for the fact that leftist bullshite is killing people.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 4:49 pm to keakar
LINK
72% of physicians treating Coronavirus in Spain are using HCQ
Spain has 13,900 deaths for the 140k confirmed cases, a published CFR of almost 10%. And yet they’re the highest reported percentage of use of HCQ.
If you exclude patients who are very sick from your trial of a treatment for a virus that has a fatality rate of ~1%, you’re going to get really good results. That’s undeniable.
72% of physicians treating Coronavirus in Spain are using HCQ
Spain has 13,900 deaths for the 140k confirmed cases, a published CFR of almost 10%. And yet they’re the highest reported percentage of use of HCQ.
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the only cases it hasnt cured the virus is for those who are already on ventilators and already near death
If you exclude patients who are very sick from your trial of a treatment for a virus that has a fatality rate of ~1%, you’re going to get really good results. That’s undeniable.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 4:56 pm to Jibbajabba
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We are trying it. We are giving it to patients when they admit to the hospital. We are giving it to people on vents. We are giving it to people who are symptomatic outpatient.
A couple wks ago the head of the LSU NOLA immunology said LA was only administering it to patients in serious conditions and were not giving it to patients who were not admitted and not seriously symptomatic. They were also not giving it to the most serious people on vents which were getting Remdesiver (sp?). I kinda assumed this was because the supply was limited and they were trying on the neediest patients... Have not heard an update on the latest strategies.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 4:58 pm to keakar
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12 countries are using it and over 50k test subjects cured out of 50k it was tried on in tests in those countries before they started wide spread use of it as the standard treatment
Link?
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the only cases it hasnt cured the virus is for those who are already on ventilators and already near death
I can think of two studies in France where this was not the case. One of which was the original study that got everyone excited had a patient die
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:12 pm to Jibbajabba
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We are trying it. We are giving it to patients when they admit to the hospital. We are giving it to people on vents. We are giving it to people who are symptomatic outpatient.
People are still dying. It may work to some degree but people are still dying. It is not the miracle cure people seem to think it is.
The hydroxychloroquine Zithromax protocol seems to work pretty well if the patient isn’t already in severe respiratory failure. I’ve listened to several first hand accounts from recovered patients who said once they started the protocol their breathing improved dramatically in less than 24 hours.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:38 pm to keakar
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:46 pm to Bass Tiger
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The hydroxychloroquine Zithromax protocol seems to work pretty well if the patient isn’t already in severe respiratory failure.
100% agreed
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:48 pm to VOR
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That’s very intriguing, but it has little or no significance in terms of a scientific conclusion.
No one gives a frick.
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