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re: Do you believe you understand what systemic racism is?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:28 am to 4cubbies
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:28 am to 4cubbies
Systemic racism is the continual accusations of democrats and liberals to AA that they cannot function in society without their help and guidance. That AA lack the ability to assimilate and compete for jobs because they don’t have the mental faculty for it. That AA should be excused from responsibility of their actions because by nature the lack the ability to follow rules or laws. That is the systemic racism foisted on the AA community by progressives and Dems.
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Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:29 am to 4cubbies
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Honest and sincere question: are you interested in understanding the other side and alternative perspectives or do you think you already understand and thus are interested only in sharing your own thoughts? Are you open to possibility that you don’t understand everything about BLM and systemic racism?
When you start a post by lying, you are off to the wrong start...
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:29 am to 4cubbies
I know BLM believes in segregation.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:29 am to 4cubbies
Any system of thought not rooted in biblical presuppositions will not be internally consistent and coherent.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 8:33 am
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:30 am to 4cubbies
It’s the inverse of affirmative action where whites give opportunities, e.g., education, jobs, court rulings, etc. to whites only. It involves the system being established in such a way that it can only deliver a race based outcome favorable to whites.
Now, affirmative action programs can be racist as well in considering that the most qualified applicant isn’t always selected. However, that topic can’t be included in the National “conversation.”
Now, affirmative action programs can be racist as well in considering that the most qualified applicant isn’t always selected. However, that topic can’t be included in the National “conversation.”
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:30 am to 4cubbies
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Honest and sincere question: are you interested in understanding the other side and alternative perspectives or do you think you already understand and thus are interested only in sharing your own thoughts? Are you open to possibility that you don’t understand everything about BLM and systemic racism?
Are african americans interested in understanding the other side? I don't get that impression. I have sympathy for AA because large populations in inner cities have a shitty lot in life and I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge that racism plays a part in that. However the other side is not willing to acknowledge that they are personally responsible for some of the issues they face. If they think they had no control over the outcome of their lives and it was only racism you won't ever get to the heart of the problem and find solutions that work.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:30 am to 4cubbies
You know it's not an honest question if you ask it and then hide for three pages without responding
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:31 am to 4cubbies
Yes just like I understand what unicorns are
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:31 am to 4cubbies
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everything about BLM
I understand they are a terrorist cell.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:32 am to ShortyRob
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You know it's not an honest question if you ask it and then hide for three pages without responding
Guarantee, in her mind, she had a "Mic Drop" post.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:32 am to LSUSaintsHornets
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I have sympathy for AA because large populations in inner cities have a shitty lot in life and I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge that racism plays a part in that. However the other side is not willing to acknowledge that they are personally responsible for some of the issues they face. If they think they had no control over the outcome of their lives and it was only racism you won't ever get to the heart of the problem and find solutions that work.
i think this is a good summary
there are institutional/cultural issues for sure, but individual action is still very important
like i said in another thread this morning, you can't eliminate privilege. that concept will always exist. what you can do is find disadvantages and aim to eliminate them. that will lead to more equitable outcomes, but it requires a good bit of individual effort
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:33 am to Turbeauxdog
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Yes just like I understand what unicorns are
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:34 am to 4cubbies
I’m very open for the most part. They problem is that it’s such a wide range that goes from understandable things into “micro aggression” and subconscious thoughts/actions. It turns into thought police-type stuff.
I’ve also noticed a lot of circular damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don’t type stuff.
Examples:
1.) you need to examine your friend group and if you don’t have any black friends, you are part of the problem.
1a.) “I have black friends is racist” and tokenism is soft racism.
2.) The black community needs our help. We need to do better.
2a.) “White Savior Complex” is racist
3.) White self-segregation is racist
3a.) Gentrification is racist
And more. I do agree that there are issues in the judicial system that unfairly punish blacks more than whites but these claims get into ridiculous areas that we couldn’t even hope to correct.
I’ve also noticed a lot of circular damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don’t type stuff.
Examples:
1.) you need to examine your friend group and if you don’t have any black friends, you are part of the problem.
1a.) “I have black friends is racist” and tokenism is soft racism.
2.) The black community needs our help. We need to do better.
2a.) “White Savior Complex” is racist
3.) White self-segregation is racist
3a.) Gentrification is racist
And more. I do agree that there are issues in the judicial system that unfairly punish blacks more than whites but these claims get into ridiculous areas that we couldn’t even hope to correct.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:35 am to gthog61
When that side starts to attack people who are actually actively working to improve the conditions of one of the most poverty stricken cities in the country, I no longer care about the cause.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
And amazingly, a lot of those institutional and cultural issues are due “well intended” government intervention and policy. Government policies that have dulled the desire to be a productive citizen and destroyed the AA family.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:38 am to Sev09
Good post
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:39 am to Sev09
another part is that we have truly toxic institutions that are amplified against certain populations
one of those institutions is our police. they are a major problem and all the institutions linked to them are corrupt in a way to protect the police infrastructure. it's a terrible thing for all americans (who aren't police), BUT this terribleness is amplified in lower SES populations. since minority (especially black) populations are larger per capita lower SES, they face the horrible parts of LEO more often than others
so is this more of an institutional racism problem or an institutional problem? i see it as the latter but due to the silencing techniques, that is like me saying "all whites matter" and is racist.
one of those institutions is our police. they are a major problem and all the institutions linked to them are corrupt in a way to protect the police infrastructure. it's a terrible thing for all americans (who aren't police), BUT this terribleness is amplified in lower SES populations. since minority (especially black) populations are larger per capita lower SES, they face the horrible parts of LEO more often than others
so is this more of an institutional racism problem or an institutional problem? i see it as the latter but due to the silencing techniques, that is like me saying "all whites matter" and is racist.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:39 am to 4cubbies
Systemic racism = Dems have ruled the cities for 50+ years and there is still racism? This can’t be their fault. It’s the systems fault!!!
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:41 am to 4cubbies
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are you interested in understanding the other side and alternative perspectives
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do you think you already understand and thus are interested only in sharing your own thoughts?
I’ll go with Answer B.
I’ve seen what their “perspective” is: to lecture endlessly about how awful white people are and to bully as many people as possible into submission to their way of thinking.
No thanks. frick all that noise. I’ll just keep thinking for myself. Screw ‘em.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:41 am to 4cubbies
I’m open to that possibility, and I’m open to further discussion about it. That’s never changed. What I’m not open to is a dismissive, overwrought, unproductive lecture designed to entrap me with misplaced blame. Just like the true protestors out there, I’m neither willing nor obligated to serve as someone else’s punching bag merely because my skin is a certain color.
Unfortunately, the lecture is about the only thing I’ve seen on offer this week, so here I sit.
Unfortunately, the lecture is about the only thing I’ve seen on offer this week, so here I sit.
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