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re: Do You Believe Demonic Possession is Real?
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:37 pm to TTOWN RONMON
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:37 pm to TTOWN RONMON
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Why mock God? Makes no sense. It just shows your heart is black, meaning dark, why does any way but God's way thrill you? Think about it, if God lives in us Godly things enthrall us, if Satan is our father, our hearts will love evil things. It is what it is, but one day each man will answer unto his Maker, the Creator. Here is where Satan is soooo brilliant.
He gets people do hate their own loving Creator's ways, and to love his ways of rape, debauchery, lust, greed, hate et al. And God doesn't not punish us, not really, Hell is really just us being separated from God, that's all it really is. Joy becomes a DARK FOREBODING DEPRESSION absent God, Peace becomes Chaos, Love becomes Hate, etc. so all who reject the free gift, accept the fact that without this cleansing, they can not abide with God, thus THEY CHOOSE Satan over God, I hate to tell you what the liar and his demons will do unto you in hell. You see this earth/universe is hell, Satan wins his prize, we get a New Heaven and New Earth and God then sets this whole universe ablaze, and its a TIME TRAP, that Satan nor anyone else can get out of.
I wasn't mocking "God". I cannot mock what does not exist. I was making light of your story.
The rest of your diatribe is just another example of how the concept of demonology has been used to manipulate weak minded individuals for thousands of years.
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:14 pm to captdalton
Jesus believed it; good enough for me.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:42 pm to TulsaSooner78
I may have missed it. But I assume you are an atheist. Is this correct?
Where do you think the ideas of right and wrong originated from?
Why is it wrong to steal? Or kill? Or cheat?
And why do wild animals not seem to have those same morals if right and wrong is just a natural phenomena?
Where do you think the ideas of right and wrong originated from?
Why is it wrong to steal? Or kill? Or cheat?
And why do wild animals not seem to have those same morals if right and wrong is just a natural phenomena?
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:50 pm to captdalton
Yes I have, spent quite a lot of time in the Pentecostal church. It’s real.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:53 pm to captdalton
We have a orange demon running the country into the ground.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:10 pm to captdalton
A demon external to the “possessed” person who inhabits and controls him? No, I do not believe in that.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:30 pm to bhtigerfan
I agree. People are crazy enough on their own to blame demons. Demons want no part in what we’ve seen by spoiled lazy brats easily brainwashed. They need to be taught how hard our great grandparents had life. Survival mode their whole lives. Lazy unmotivated brats inventing all kinds of issues to give themselves reason to whine. Demons aren’t smart enough to have thought of this approach.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:31 pm to captdalton
Yes
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:34 pm to captdalton
Absolutely. It’s the only explanation for this madness.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:12 pm to Penrod
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A demon external to the “possessed” person who inhabits and controls him? No, I do not believe in that.
That is exactly what someone possessed by a demon would say.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:24 pm to captdalton
That is exactly what someone possessed by a demon would say.
And THAT is exactly what someone who believes in mythical creatures would say.
And THAT is exactly what someone who believes in mythical creatures would say.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:43 pm to Smeg
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By just about any metric you could think of.
First, I'm guessing you're very young.
40 years ago was 1985. The world was nothing like today. Even though we didn't have social media, the Democrats were not basically orgasmic at assassination attempts on Ronald Reagan and Pope John Paul II. There is a vile bloodlust in these people now.
A large amount of the left vilify the law and police while sympathizing with violent criminals. It wasn't always like this. These people are angry at order and want to spread chaos. San Francisco wasn't covered in excrement and used needles. Just look at the shuttered major cities where grocery stores can't even maintain operation. It was not like this 20 years ago, much less 40 or 60 years ago.
Yep! The kiddos have no idea. A LOT has changed.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:47 pm to captdalton
Pigs in the garden.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 12:36 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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The ancient world didn't have our understanding of neurology, psychiatry, or psychology, so it makes sense they would interpret conditions like epilepsy, schizophrenia, dissociative disorders, or severe mental illness through a spiritual framework. It was the only framework they had.
Not if you’re talking about the New Testament where there are often clear delineations between different medical conditions, illnesses, and demonic oppression/possession.
•Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those with leprosy, cast out demons. Freely you received, freely give. Matthew 10:8 Jesus sent out his disciples with those instructions.
•St. Luke’s take on the same event…And he called the twelve together and gave them power and authority over all demons and to cure diseases. Luke 9:1
•Concerning Jesus himself-And he healed many who were sick with various diseases, and cast out many demons. And he would not permit the demons to speak, because they knew him. Mark 1:34
So his fame spread throughout all Syria,
and they brought him all the sick,
those afflicted with various diseases and pains, those oppressed by demons,
and epileptics, and paralytics, and he healed them. Matthew 4:24
•Luke 11:14, Matthew 12:22, et al.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 1:56 am to captdalton
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Do you believe people can be possessed by demons/demonic forces?
How else do you explain Pentecostals
rolling around on the floor? Why would Pentecostals have that experience but not other denominations?
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:43 am to captdalton
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That is exactly what someone possessed by a demon would say.
But yeah, that’s true.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 7:35 am to captdalton
As I have gotten older, I realize that satan is ok with most "Christians" the way they are. "I got baptized, I try not to sin, when I do I ask for forgiveness." That isn't what we are here for..."to live a good life." We are here to spread the gospel. The good Lord isn't asking us all to be Charlie Kirk, because we don't all have that gift, but when a chance arises I believe He wants us to share His message, to plant a seed. Not argue, not debate, just plant a seed. It can be a bumbling, painful, embarrassing statement, but we plant seeds. He does the rest.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 7:47 am to captdalton
Evil certainly exists but I don't particularly believe in demonic possession.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:55 am to captdalton
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I may have missed it. But I assume you are an atheist. Is this correct?
I am.
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Where do you think the ideas of right and wrong originated from?
Survival.
Rational beings (especially humans) recognized that it was much easier to thrive and prosper when they coexisted peacefully with others of their species, trading upon their own ability to make a positive contribution to a group in return for things they needed that others had a greater ability to supply. In order to be successful, that required a system of delineating "right" from "wrong", justice, and hierarchical leadership.
Animals establish hierarchies, and rules for right and wrong, within their pack. Transgressors are punished. Humans are no different, other than our hierarchies, rules, and forms of punishment for transgression, are much more refined.
Simple example: One person is skilled at making weapons. Another is skilled at hunting. Together, they thrive and prosper. Apart, not so much. They agree to terms of mutual support.
Adherence to the agreed-upon terms is "right". Violation of the terms is "wrong". You don't need a "god" / higher power / supreme being to explain that concept to you.
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Why is it wrong to steal? Or kill? Or cheat?
As I described above, "right" and "wrong" are defined by the "social contract" under which you agree to live to the mutual benefit of yourself and others.
You aren't going to survive long if you steal from your neighbors, kill them without reason, or otherwise swindle them. At some point they will conspire against you and seek retribution / punishment.
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And why do wild animals not seem to have those same morals if right and wrong is just a natural phenomena?
Wild animanls are no different than humans. Just less refined.
Wild animals kill when they need to eat. They kill to defend themselves and their families. They establish leadership hierarchies within their packs. They establish rules and enforce them.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 12:52 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
You are right I should have been more specific. They did make distinctions just not based on how we would understand disease distinction today.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 1:06 pm
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