re: Do Navy SEALS Have a Problem?

Sounds like some soiboi doesn’t like the idea idea of well trained, dangerous men around. Makes him feel even more inadequate than he already does.

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They need a physician. One who was a SEAL or special forces of some type.

A simple chest X-ray could have got this guy pulled. Treat like the extreme athletes that they are. Have a doc, like I said, who understands the program and training.

I’m sure they have access to medical but have to ask for it. Like an athlete they need that decision taken away.

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Ok so this answers my question about why he wasn't pulled out when he was coughing up blood.

Sounds like a physician that has the power to pulls the decision from both the trainee and the instructors too.

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Much truth to that. Jesse Ventura mentions that in his book how the Arnold body builder types tend to fail and the little runt looking guy, kids picked on, tend to succeed. I suspect, all that extra muscle mass demands more oxygen and nutrients.

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I was stationed across the street from the JFK Special Warfare Center on Ft. Bragg. We shared a chow hall with those guys.

Anything “extra” you have to carry, even muscle, becomes a hindrance. Probably the fittest guy in my unit tried out for SF. He went through selection, which at that time was 3 weeks long. He came back with stress fractures and I’m not sure he made it.

This training isn’t just there to weed out the weak in spirit, it’s there to weed out the physically weak too. There are people that are just different. They are just physically different than the rest of us. My step brother was SF and was stationed at Bragg while I was there. He went through SF selection 3 times in a row. They kept kicking him back because he was too young. They finally took him.

I watched the Ranger challenge on the outdoor network once. The physician was interviewed. He said some folks at the end of this are at the end and if they had to continue it would likely kill them. He pointed to two brothers that we competing as a team. He said those guys there are “just different”. He said they could run the whole 3 days again and would probably get a faster time, physically they are unaffected.

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PED's

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Ya don’t say…

Tbh, all of our special operations units use PEDs. WTF would you rather, PEDs and the ability to withstand shite a normal man can’t, or no PEDs? This isn’t baseball. There are no asterisks.

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I don’t think the training is the problem. I think it’s more the mindset that “I need to be as big and strong as possible” to succeed. Oftentimes though it’s not the biggest and the strongest that survive. It’s the opposite… perfect example would be those American Ninja Warrior shows on tv. The jacked as frick guys typically struggle while the smaller guys tend to excel. Two completely different scenarios but at a certain point size starts to work against you.

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It’s the Bull vs the Billy Goat…..when I was in the guys that were jacked with veins popping out couldn’t handle the extremes. Where as the Billy goat guys like me could hump 100 lbs packs all day, max the PFT and basically weather the storms.

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He went through SF selection 3 times in a row. They kept kicking him back because he was too young. They finally took him.

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He probably knows this now, but they will occasionally kick someone back who has passed every single aspect just to see if they want it bad enough to re-apply. If the physical part is "easy", and it will always be easier for some than others, they don't know if the drive is really there.

All about endurance. At 20 yo I started lifted weights etc. and put on 10lbs of muscle. My run times and endurance got slower and slower. Had to drop the weight because we were running up to 20 miles at a time. Have to be lean and have stamina. That's just to begin. Probably need luck with injuries also.

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Much truth to that. Jesse Ventura mentions that in his book how the Arnold body builder types tend to fail and the little runt looking guy, kids picked on, tend to succeed

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This is true. It also leads to two very different approaches to the same challenges. Jacked body builder types tend to try to overcome challenges through brute force and strength but that generally leads to failure. The smaller guys on the other hand have to rely heavily on teamwork and work as one to overcome their physical limitations which is the essence of being a seal.