re: Do anti-vaxers who seem to cherish the thought of complications realize what that means?

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A common theme of anti-vaxxers today

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We have a possibly/probably engineered bio-weapon that was used to rig an election, among other things. Governments around the world and at state and federal levels used this "crisis" to grab power at an unprecedented rate, picking and choosing winners in business, causing some to lose what took a lifetime to build. They've printed money by the literal trillions and we now face double digit inflation. We've been lied to repeatedly by the federal government and over 2 years later they're still using it as a power grab.

And this is what you get sand in your vag about?

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Maybe. I could be overstating that which I’ll admit.

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How is it even possible that you can't understand the differentiation between being a traditional anti-vaxxed and people who have an issue with THIS vaccine?

It's easily explained to a 10 year old.

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you gave some really preliminary Massachusetts data

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It’s not preliminary. It’s just ongoing.

Massachusetts had over 80,000 breakthrough infections.

Last week.

Accounting for a lag in hospitalizations, they’re running around 2% hospitalizations versus cases. That’s about the same as what we would expect to see in the unvaccinated (Delta was around 4% and early data suggest Omicron is 50-66% fewer hospitalizations).

Mortality is hovering around 0.5% for vaccinated with breakthrough infection.

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In one month, they’ve gone from less than 2% of the vaccinated having been infected to over 5%.

The total population of Massachusetts has had infections in 20% of the population. If the infections in the vaccinated double again this week, it will be close to 7.5% of the vaccinated with an infection.

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I don’t know how to explain but I don’t think literally everything related to Covid is driven by politics. There absolutely has been a ton of over reach though. But it’s hive mind and tribal to boil everything Covid down to an us vs them political battle.

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Um, honestly, pretending it's not OBVIOUSLY 99% about politics at this point is ostrich behavior.

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I don’t agree with this. I’m not saying everyone should get vaccinated. I don’t care if you do or not. But I definitely believe the vaccines have helped many people’s symptoms and to help them beat it.

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93% of all deaths have occurred in people aged 50 or older. From there, the sliding scale or risk to younger people is steep as frick.

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The vaccine causes 2.7 excess cases of myocarditis per 100,000.

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Thank you.

And, I'm sure you'd acknowledge that when we are this early in ANY new medical treatment, there will be more learned as we go.

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I believe the lawsuit thread was about the parents who knowingly let their infected child go to a prom. I have absolutely zero problem with this. Sue me

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It was St. Louis County’s first case. The Health department completely fumbled the ball and told the family the child was fine to attend the prom. They then lied and said that wasn’t what they told the family. Until they got sued.

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Well I’m an anomaly then because I’m vaccinated, don’t believe in mandates and don’t wish death on either side

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Nothing wrong with that.

That said, I can't speak for you obviously, but we REALLY need the vaccinated by don't believe in mandates crowd to get A LOT frickING LOUDER in this country.

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What responsibility do hospitalized unvaxxed people bear when they deny others healthcare

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Damn SFP

That thread is just embarrassing.

Good Lord

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You mean like being required to get prior to attending school and other civic spaces?

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Wow. Just wow. This was about as lazy as you could possibly get.

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We have a possibly/probably engineered bio-weapon that was used to rig an election, among other things. Governments around the world and at state and federal levels used this "crisis" to grab power at an unprecedented rate, picking and choosing winners in business, causing some to lose what took a lifetime to build. They've printed money by the literal trillions and we now face double digit inflation. We've been lied to repeatedly by the federal government and over 2 years later they're still using it as a power grab.

And this is what you get sand in your vag about?

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I'm wondering how a few people on a message board chirping about vaccine complications compare to world governments continuing to force people to ingest them, even as the scientific community and their own manufacturers acknowledge they dont work and may even be dangerous?

I mean, is antivax people sharing articles online about collapsing soccer players really the fricking problem here? LOL

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Is this board supposed to literally fix world problems?