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re: Do anti-vaxers who seem to cherish the thought of complications realize what that means?

Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by AussieRock
Member since Jan 2022
329 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:09 pm to
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The intelligent way to deal with Covid would have been to address those at risk, instead of lying to the public from the start.



Once it became obvious that the vaccine wasn't going to be a vaccine in any real sense of the word, it should have been "oh shite, full stop, reevaluate"

Yet, instead, they literally tried to convince all Americans that they didn't JUST TELL THEM that the vaccine would STOP THE SPREAD and that if you were vaccinated you WOULD NOT GET COVID.

In fact, they convinced Americans to repeat "this is perfectly normal, no one said it would prevent you getting it" as if the fricking internet doesn't exist.

shite, we've got at least one genius in THIS thread repeating that stupidity.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477250 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:10 pm to
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The OP is supporting the unintelligent way of dealing with the disease.

OP offered no suggestions for "dealing with disease"
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128849 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:11 pm to
He’s round the bend.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9806 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:11 pm to
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I was anti-Reddit years before it was cool.




“This board “
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:11 pm to
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OP offered no suggestions


No doubt, I don't think you would have any without copying someone elses work.

But you're still supporting the status quo and don't even realize it.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 2:13 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:12 pm to
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Once it became obvious that the vaccine wasn't going to be a vaccine in any real sense of the word, it should have been "oh shite, full stop, reevaluate"


That requires thought and planning.

Actual intelligence.
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
50990 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:13 pm to
They just milking the money out these vaccines. They aren’t gonna say they don’t work. They are greedy.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8441 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:14 pm to
Is there any way to get the OP band as a disgusting piece of crap

Unlike the OP and his ilk, people on this board are reporting facts of complications from the vaccination rather than enjoying the trauma that is being caused by its application

in fact it is the OP and his ilk that are loading the people that are dying for not getting vaccinated

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128849 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:14 pm to
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They aren’t gonna say they don’t work. They are greedy.


Pfizer knew that beforehand. I believe they cooked the books.
Posted by AussieRock
Member since Jan 2022
329 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:15 pm to
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Once it became obvious that the vaccine wasn't going to be a vaccine in any real sense of the word, it should have been "oh shite, full stop, reevaluate"


That requires thought and planning.

Actual intelligence.

And the moment Fauci even mildly implied that we might just need to get booster after booster after booster as a response to "vaccine don't fricking work", he should have been laughed out of the room by any half reasonable humans.

Mind you, you can find video of Fauci from early in 2020 talking about the ONLY realistic timeline for delivering a real vaccine. A video he has just completely abandoned and not a soul even asks him about.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:15 pm to
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They just milking the money out these vaccines.


And political power.

The most shocking to me is how they push this on children, who are largely unaffected by the virus.

Posted by Irish Knuckles
Nuwallins
Member since Jan 2015
1256 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:19 pm to
i'm not wishing anything ill on people who got the jab. so many people falling for all the hysteria after the way it came out in media and was handled is concerning. it's been disingenuous every step of the way.

if someone didn't think this "pandemic" was sketchy, then at least i have a better understanding of people's judgment and priorities. we have a lot of weak, simple-minded people in our society. it's how we influence children. fear and shiny things.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:19 pm to
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Is there any way to get the OP band as a disgusting piece of crap


We need SJWs like himself to show the stark contrast between sanity and the extremists.

He's an extremist. He doesn't understand the middle ground. I think we need to know who these people are.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:19 pm to
*Looks at the media clapping over unvaxxed deaths*

Yeah, unvaxxed cheering for heart disorders really are the problem.

Nitwit.

In all seriousness though SFP, what happened? It seems like you've veered hard left recently.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 2:21 pm
Posted by AussieRock
Member since Jan 2022
329 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:21 pm to
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They aren’t gonna say they don’t work. They are greedy.


Pfizer knew that beforehand. I believe they cooked the books.
I intentionally avoid any and all conspiracy sounding stuff on this because it's not necessary to show how dumb the policy is.

The bottom line is following.
1. We decided to attempt to develop a vaccine in literal world record time.

2. When we decided that, EVERYONE in the media mocked the President for it. And Fauci went on EXTENSIVELY about how unrealistic it was.

3. But, we got one in under a year. OK. Forget conspiracy for a moment.

4. It is PERFECTLY frickING REASONABLE to say that it is IMPOSSIBLE to know the vaccine is safe in that short of a time.

Does this mean that I think they want it to be bad? No. I assume that the people trying to make a vaccine want the best vaccine they can come up with. I also know they're humans and, well, we just asked them to break world records to achieve a vaccine.

This ABSOLUTELY means with 100% certainty that there are unknown risks and I'd bet my house that allowed to speak freely, every developer would say the same.

Frankly, I don't even see anything wrong with that. You get the damned thing out and you offer it to the people most at risk. Because while a vaccine with some unknowns might be dumb for a 20 year old to take, it's not necessarily dumb for a 70 year old to do so.

ALL of that would have been perfectly rational. But nooooooo. We have a bunch of fricking liberals who have been getting off on all of their "emergency edicts" and "sticking it to" people who like freedom, that they went the mandate route.

So, here we are.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:21 pm to
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In all seriousness though SFP, what happened? It seems like you've veered hard left recently.


A woman. He's hooked up with some loon.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9806 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:26 pm to
Amen bro

I agree it wasn’t intentionally being made to be poison, and there was a high demand for Trump to produce something. But at the heart of the matter is for people to freely choose that option. Then you have the those who have to shite on freedoms.
Posted by AussieRock
Member since Jan 2022
329 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:27 pm to
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A woman. He's hooked up with some loon.


Well, and apparently he used to be very liberal and was "converted" on this board.

The problem with some converted liberals is that they're a lot like converted gays.

Just because they stopped sucking dick doesn't mean they don't still want to!
Posted by charbar203
Member since Nov 2021
23 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:35 pm to
I see way more people (100-1) wishing death upon antivaxxers than antivaxxers wishing death upon the vaccinated. Odd. Even odder is that you think its the opposite. You are truly brainwashed. Go to reddit and lookup HermanCainAwards.

When I see antivaxxers talk, they are empathetic to these people getting duped. It has nothing to do with vitriol.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477250 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:36 pm to
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In all seriousness though SFP, what happened? It seems like you've veered hard left recently.

Me pointing out absurd/irrational stances that are popular on this board don't mean I've veered left.

This board has bouts of mass formation psychosis but they're blinded to only point out the MFP of "the left" while ignoring their own.

Occasionally I try to illuminate them, often to NPC responses/talking points, whataboutism, strawman arguments, and ad hom arguments (incorrectly calling me a leftist).
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 2:37 pm
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