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re: Do anti-vaxers who seem to cherish the thought of complications realize what that means?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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At worst, your wish would kill approximately 60% of the world's population. This would destroy modern society and send things back to the Bronze or Stone age within a generation (if not sooner).
The world has 8 billion people. 40% of 8 billion is 3.2 billion. The world population was 3.2 billion in 1962. 1962 was more than 3000 years after the bronze age. Your math is a little off.
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:25 pm to the808bass
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This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:25 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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The silly thing is thinking this is an "anomaly" on "the board" or anywhere.
Anyone can post on this board, it wouldn’t be the first time a big government lib posed as an “anti-vaxer” and wished death. Remember when the Nazis fired up their own building and blamed the enemy. Most conservatives and especially Christians have a heart for people’s freedoms and betterment, then you have the noise makers trying to confuse everyone and blame those advocating for freedom to somehow be the evil ones. It’s disgusting and intellectually lazy.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:26 pm to cahoots
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Please stop with the misinformation.
I didn’t post any. Thanks.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:26 pm to Big Scrub TX
Big Scrub says this. I am done for now. I am in the middle of the vax situ that is all. if I were them (and I easily could be) like thisclose. i would not be saying I had pureblood as a gotcha with any seriousness.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:29 pm to cahoots
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So if half of the world gets omicron how many people is that that the vaccines "saved"? 100?
It’s the right question. We won’t know for another year or two. I suspect the vaccines primary benefit was keeping vaccinated people less infected during delta. Now that the efficacy is waning, people will be far less compliant with booster regimens.
Luckily, the Omicron strain appears far less fatal with hospitalization rates approaching 1/3 of the rates we saw with Delta in a case basis.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:29 pm to Big Scrub TX
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You mean like being required to get prior to attending school and other civic spaces?
link?
Because i didnt to attend school. It is written in LA state law you have to give personal exemption.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
You should consider banning yourself from here for a while...you've far exceed your ignorant post count.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:30 pm to Big Scrub TX
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What happened to you to post sane things like this?
Q and that insanity
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:30 pm to cajunangelle
quote:Can you say more?
I am in the middle of the vax situ that is all.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:32 pm to Pettifogger
quote:^^^Truth there would be a thread posted and they would act like peacocks.
There are dozens of dudes on Poli who would love nothing more than a confirmed vaccine death of a poster who isn't anti-vaxx
zealots on all sides
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:32 pm to Lg
quote:These. What else do you want to know?
Can you tell me which of those vaccinations required to attend school has the shortest trial time before being put into circulation?
quote:That's actually true for a fair number of vaccines. The difference is, e.g. measles, virtually everyone has the vaccine. But if it were only 65%, you'd see plenty of breakthrough cases.
And which of these vaccines doesn't prevent getting said disease/virus but just mitigate symptoms?
Also, the flu. Even if you get the flu after having the vaccine, the vaccine acts like an antiviral and can greatly mitigate symptoms.
Now that you know these easy facts, I predict you have a wholesale change of opinion based on your new knowledge.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:34 pm to the808bass
quote:No, I remember you always saying this, I just think you're not right. The one time I pushed you for data, you gave some really preliminary Massachusetts data (and admitted that it was preliminary).
We do this pretty regularly. I don’t know if you forget or what.
Hospitalization rates for breakthrough infections are roughly the same, vaccinated or unvaccinated.
There appears to be an absolute reduction in mortality somewhere between .3% and .7% in the macro. For a healthy person under 30, that absolute reduction is pretty close to zero (because the IFR is pretty close to zero).
That difference could easily be accounted for by the death certificate harvesting applied to the unvaccinated. We will probably never know.
Now, it certainly seems true that Omicron in general is just less severe, so perhaps it tends us more towards the scenario you are positing. But your numbers re Delta are simply false. (I'm open to being shown wrong.)
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
One of your worst post.
Let me help.
The anti vaxers before covid are not the same as the after covid anti covid vax anti vaxers.
Let me help.
The anti vaxers before covid are not the same as the after covid anti covid vax anti vaxers.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
Key Points to the CDC data:
•There is 99.3708% overall survival rate for those that have been infected by Covid-19. For the under 18 age group that number is 99.9975% survival rate.
•1% of those under 18 that were infected ended up in the hospital. 17.9% of those 65+ who were infected ended up in the hospital.
•84.7% of those infected were symptomatic (which means 15.3% of those infected were asymptomatic).
•44.6% of the US population has been infected with covid-19 from February 1, 2020 through September 30, 2021.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html
This CDC data in excel format:
•There is 99.3708% overall survival rate for those that have been infected by Covid-19. For the under 18 age group that number is 99.9975% survival rate.
•1% of those under 18 that were infected ended up in the hospital. 17.9% of those 65+ who were infected ended up in the hospital.
•84.7% of those infected were symptomatic (which means 15.3% of those infected were asymptomatic).
•44.6% of the US population has been infected with covid-19 from February 1, 2020 through September 30, 2021.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html
This CDC data in excel format:
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Still using the estrogen ridden term "anti vaxxers" to describe people who have been getting vaccines their entire lives.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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At worst, your wish would kill approximately 60% of the world's population. This would destroy modern society and send things back to the Bronze or Stone age within a generation (if not sooner).
This isn't our wish, dumbass...
Go read Turner, Rockefeller, Schaub, Gates...listen to what they say.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:45 pm to goatmilker
quote:
Let me help.
He's not going to understand. His entire belief system is wrapped around some woman.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I have absolutely zero problem with this.
I believe the lawsuit thread was about the parents who knowingly let their infected child go to a prom.
Sue me
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