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re: DJT - Tomorrow's Supreme Court case is "literally, LIFE OR DEATH for our Country..."
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The president only has the power Congress gives him
Here’s what Grok says about your ridiculous statement:
From the United States Constitution. Article Two lays out executive powers, while Congress handles legislative stuff under Article One. Checks and balances mean they share influence, but the president's core authority-like vetoing laws or being commander-in-chief-starts constitutional.
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:54 pm to Django Unchained
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while Congress handles legislative stuff under Article One
Like tariffs. My point exactly.
And lol at "stuff".
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
I’m tired of slinging poo with the monkeys. Off with you jester.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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was just giving a civics lesson for 5 year olds
It's really amazing. The Constitution is a masterpiece.
Congress writes the laws.
The Executive executes those laws.
The Judiciary interprets those laws.
Don't like it? Amend the Constitution.
As with all taxes, Congress generally decides on tariffs. Do the Trump tariffs fit into the specific exceptions that Congress gave the Executive authority?
We will see what the Supreme Court decides.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:01 pm to Django Unchained
I notice you skipped the Trump admin agreeing with me
LINK
Explain how they are wrong
They're arguing the same thing am
LINK
quote:
A ruling striking down Trump's use of the 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act, or IEEPA, to quickly impose broad global tariffs also would eliminate a favorite cudgel to punish countries that draw his ire on non-trade political matters.
quote:
Bessent told Reuters that he expects the Supreme Court to uphold the IEEPA-based tariffs. But if it strikes down the tariffs, Bessent said in an interview, the administration will simply switch to other tariff authorities, including Section 122 of the Trade Act of 1974, which allows broad 15% tariffs for 150 days to calm trade imbalances.
Bessent said Trump also can invoke Section 338 of the Tariff Act of 1930, a statute that allows tariffs up to 50% on countries that discriminate against U.S. commerce.
Explain how they are wrong
They're arguing the same thing am
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:04 pm to Django Unchained
quote:
I’m tired of slinging poo with the monkeys. Off with you jester.
Let me help you out here:
"I can't think of a response that makes sense, so I'm just gonna wish you go away and stop pointing out how I'm a moron."
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
The President only has the power Congress gives him.
If you think he needs this, you need Congress to pass legislation granting him this specific tariff power
The President already has established tariff powers based on statutes
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:07 pm to HailToTheChiz
quote:
The President already has established tariff powers based on statutes
Some authority? Yes. That's what I said
The problem is he's using a statute in a novel way that was not the intention to expand executive powers beyond the intended scope. It's similar to Bidens loan forgiveness using the HEROES Act.
The question is how much excess executive authority the USSC will give him. Biden got 0 and that was a huge victory for all of us. Reversing that means the next Biden can do extreme silliness like loan forgiveness out of irrelevant statutes.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:10 pm to BobBoucher
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He has a point.
If the executive can’t use the power of the economy as diplomatic leverage, then he has no leverage.
Other governments will see this weakness and take full advantage to weaken our economy and thus our country.
It can be a national security issue.
Gosh, I wonder how we ever made it over 200 years without doing this.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:15 pm to Bunk Moreland
MAGA get ready for two days of having your face pushed in.
Trumps a dud 1 year into term 2.
Trumps a dud 1 year into term 2.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:16 pm to Reflex
Not at all, I had proven the point several times that Presidential Power does not come from Congress… but is based in the Constitution.
I feel sorry for you and your inability to comprehend.
I feel sorry for you and your inability to comprehend.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:17 pm to hansenthered1
Dude ain’t no such thing as “two days” of that…..we gotta deal with idiots refusing to believe they’re idiots like this every damn day. All day, every day. This is nothing new.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:17 pm to Django Unchained
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Not at all, I had proven the point several times that Presidential Power does not come from Congress… but is based in the Constitution.
Then how are Trumps lawyers and Scott Bessent so wrong?
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:19 pm to Django Unchained
quote:
Here’s what Grok says about your ridiculous statement:
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
Trying to use 1 and 2 syllable words here…
Show me in the Constitution where Presidential Authority is granted by Congress.
You think George Washington sat around waiting on Congress to grant him Presidential Authority?
“Come on guys, I’m sitting here with nothing to do… where’s my congressional authority!!!”
- George Washington
Show me in the Constitution where Presidential Authority is granted by Congress.
You think George Washington sat around waiting on Congress to grant him Presidential Authority?
“Come on guys, I’m sitting here with nothing to do… where’s my congressional authority!!!”
- George Washington
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:47 pm to Django Unchained
Careful, you’re going to strain his ability to have Grok or some shite to give him answers his fake law degree doesn’t.
God only knows the jibberish that’s going to follow if you overclock him. Assuming of course it’s an actual him and not a seriously confused woman, which wouldn’t surprise me
God only knows the jibberish that’s going to follow if you overclock him. Assuming of course it’s an actual him and not a seriously confused woman, which wouldn’t surprise me
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
you need Congress to pass legislation granting him this specific tariff power
Congress is hopelessly divided and incapable of holding America together.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:52 pm to llfshoals
Ha! Based on “his” response, I believe the safe bet is to go with overly confused woman!
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
I was just giving a civics lesson for 5 year olds
Better than your economic lessons.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:26 pm to Bunk Moreland
LINK
This report examines Congress's constitutional power over import tariffs, Congress's ability to delegate some of its authority over tariffs to the President within certain limits, the scope of specific authorities Congress has delegated to the President to impose or adjust tariffs, and the ways in which courts have resolved challenges to the President's use of those authorities.
The Constitution grants Congress the power to regulate foreign commerce, impose tariffs, and collect revenue.
As discussed in this report, Congress has long enacted laws authorizing the President to adjust tariff rates on goods in certain circumstances. Courts have generally upheld these laws against constitutional challenges, holding that they do not impermissibly delegate Congress's legislative power over tariffs to the executive branch.
This report examines Congress's constitutional power over import tariffs, Congress's ability to delegate some of its authority over tariffs to the President within certain limits, the scope of specific authorities Congress has delegated to the President to impose or adjust tariffs, and the ways in which courts have resolved challenges to the President's use of those authorities.
The Constitution grants Congress the power to regulate foreign commerce, impose tariffs, and collect revenue.
As discussed in this report, Congress has long enacted laws authorizing the President to adjust tariff rates on goods in certain circumstances. Courts have generally upheld these laws against constitutional challenges, holding that they do not impermissibly delegate Congress's legislative power over tariffs to the executive branch.
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