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re: Dispute this quote from de Tocqueville
Posted on 7/6/26 at 6:59 pm to weagle1999
Posted on 7/6/26 at 6:59 pm to weagle1999
He was plagiarizing Alexander Fraser Tytler.
Plutarch said it better anyway.
Plutarch said it better anyway.
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 7:01 pm to CleverUserName
We never had these entitlements.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 7:12 pm to weagle1999
The theft is coming from within by the government officials themselves and the cover up of massive fraud. At this point it’s not the electorate, it’s the filth running the government.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 7:14 pm to Eurocat
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We never had these entitlements.
Are you officially taking the stance that there is not a expansive social welfare system in the US that is abused on a massive scale? Posted on 7/6/26 at 7:16 pm to RobbBobb
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Again, tell me how the citizens can vote themselves money from the Treasury, since
We all know they cannot. This quote, by De Tocqueville, was made in defense of the Representative Republic we created.
He did say this, which is more to your point;
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The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money
Posted on 7/6/26 at 7:23 pm to stuntman
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Universal suffrage is one of the dumbest ideas of all time. Most people actually think it's a GOOD thing to allow the dumbest, most dependent people in society have a say in who controls government.
There would be a lot less dumb people if we'd quit feeding them. People that pay no taxes and require the generosity of others to exist shouldn't be voting
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 7/6/26 at 7:26 pm to weagle1999
There are votes for rEpReSeNtAtIvVeS. They vote to spend money. Money we ain’t got = 40T to the negative
Nobody voted for that except congressmen
Nobody voted for that except congressmen
Posted on 7/6/26 at 7:29 pm to BigAL Golesh
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Sounds like the exact goals of the democrat party.
They do love the frenchmen.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 7:29 pm to djmed
And don’t forget
You and anyone who has or makes more than you is not paying their far share (tm)
You and anyone who has or makes more than you is not paying their far share (tm)
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:25 pm to CleverUserName
No I mean "we" in Eastern Europe.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 7:39 am to Eurocat
Ok. I'll make it easier for you to follow along.
You said:
To which I said:
Eastern Europe has zilch to do with the discussion. You just conveniently ran to it when entitlements came up in your "let's suffer a bit now" diatribe. Because the people who contribute nothing always should somehow be the last to be inconvenienced.
You said:
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America is 38 trillion in debt and does not follow that "let's suffer a bit now in 20 years those alive will thank us" philosophy.
To which I said:
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I'm glad you people are finally coming around to cutting cradle to grave entitlements. Also helps solve the "we need workers" problem too.
Eastern Europe has zilch to do with the discussion. You just conveniently ran to it when entitlements came up in your "let's suffer a bit now" diatribe. Because the people who contribute nothing always should somehow be the last to be inconvenienced.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 7:47 am to weagle1999
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And while I understand that the US is a representative republic, in this case that seems to be a distinction without a difference.
The only difference I see is that the representative republic has a dampening effect on this path over straight democracy, but it just delays the inevitable.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:23 am to Eurocat
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No I mean "we" in Eastern Europe
Slightly pussified for a native of the Baltic area. You must have immigrated there.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:29 am to stuntman
Pure democracy is essentially populism, which modern dems say is evil because "Trump is a fascist... ree ree" and other nonsense. Ironically, modern dems also want to "preserve democracy", consider republicans a "threat to democracy", and also support stupidity like National Popular Vote while they hand pick candidates in spite of their voters.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:37 am to weagle1999
You can't dispute it. We're seeing it in real time in the USA and across Europe. The welfare state will end democratic republicanism and lead us back to some form of authoritarian who promises to keep the free stuff coming.
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