re: Disparate Impact Thinking Is Destroying Our Civilization

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but...........yeah. Black school performance has virtually zero to do with the public schools.
horseshite!

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Compelling argument.

Alas, no. It really doesn't. Every single cultural predictor of academic success, blacks get wrong on steroids.

The only thing you can kinda point to the schools on is black schools often having subpar teachers compared to white schools but even THAT is the fault of blacks.

You can't kidnap teachers and force them to teach in black schools. So, even if you manage to hire a decent teacher there, they can't wait to run for the hills at the first opportunity.

It starts from friggin kindergarten and never gets better White kids show up on DAY ONE in public schools miles beyond their black counterparts. The public schools can't exactly take credit for my children showing up on day 1 scoring as 3rd graders on their standardized tests while the black kids show up lucky if they know their ABCs.

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without corporal punishment

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You assume too much. Education is critical to the country. Given the directive, we must find the means. Intergenerational poverty in the most upwardly mobile country on the planet is ridiculous. Cause is attributable to Classroom failure, Cultural failure, and perhaps heritable Capability. Of those variables, we can control one and significantly influence another.

The first step IMO is enacting school choice including magnets and trade schools. There are several ways to approach the discipline equation. The first is to convince hopeless kids that there is hope, that they can do better, that the American dream is as much theirs as anyone's. As with many things, the most important element is buy-in.

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This is a problem that’s decades in the making.

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Destruction of the family unit starting with Socialsts policy in the 50s/60s...

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The first step IMO is enacting school choice including magnets and trade schools.

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While I like the idea of school choice, that only puts kids who want to learn in one set of schools and leaves those without parental support in another set of schools. These schools then go from 30% problem kids to 80%, killing any chance for those with desire to learn.

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There are several ways to approach the discipline equation. The first is to convince hopeless kids that there is hope, that they can do better, that the American dream is as much theirs as anyone's. As with many things, the most important element is buy-in.

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For those with any desire, my daughter does an excellent job of motivating them. Sometimes it is as simple as being a teacher who shows up (with her parents) at sporting events, plays, etc. She encourages them and does not give the easy grade. For those that put forth effort, extra opportunities are given. For those that refuse, then, not so much.

However, which classes should you give up to do the parenting that these kids are not receiving - math, science, English?

There is a reason that Proverbs 13:24 says "He who spares his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him promptly."

Children have and will always need disciple. Children have not changed over the past centries - parents have. The Socialists destroying of the family unit has done more to damage to children and this country than anything else. No institution, whether governmental or religious, can replace the role of the parent, but that is what many expect. They expect to procreate without responsibility as we promise them "free" breakfast, "free" lunch, "free" child care, etc.

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The first step IMO is enacting school choice including magnets and trade schools.
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While I like the idea of school choice, that only puts kids who want to learn in one set of schools and leaves those without parental support in another set of schools. These schools then go from 30% problem kids to 80%, killing any chance for those with desire to learn.

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Magnets and trade schools would address both ends of the scale.

Regardless, when you say "these schools then go from 30% problem kids to 80%," 30% is more than enough to disrupt education of the 70%. Our 1°/2° school results speak to that.

If you concentrate IQ gifted kids, low IQ but physically gifted kids, and intellectually disabled kids, that leaves kids in the middle, capable kids. Admins & teachers overseeing education of "kids in the middle" could feel assured those students are capable, if not gifted. Now then, under those circumstances, a disruptor arises, he or she can be dealt with much more effectively.

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Only 3% of Black high school seniors were college ready in 2023."

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Its hard to fathom how the Black community continues to support the democrats that do this to them. Rhey deserve so much better.

They should be the most libertarian demographic in america.

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The largest racial disparities in academic achievement are in the most progressive cities.

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The widest racial disparities in academic achievement occur in college towns. Ann Arbor, Oxford, Chapel Hill, etc.

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It's almost entirely cultural. Black culture largely eschews academics and black kids who try hard and do well in school are relentlessly ridiculed for being too white. There is not a goddamn thing any white person can do to change this. This has to change from within, but there has been no indication that this will happen.

As long as black people care more about PPG than GPA, nothing will change.

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Bingo.

The destruction of family in black society has simply made it worse.

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Wishing Well

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I missed your responses earlier.

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However, you cannot, on the one hand, believe schools are guilty of grooming and indoctrination (which they are), yet on the other hand, excuse them from massive educational underperformance.
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You've conflated 2 things.

Are schools overall underperforming for ALL students? Answer. Yes. And on that point, your assertion applies.

However it has NOTHING to do with the GAPS in performance between blacks and everyone else.

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There is no conflation.

Schools have as much or more time with kids than their parents do. They have tremendous ability to influence, educate, and to impact attitude, if not aptitude. Regardless of the latter, to contend that ANY group is adequately served by a 3% college readiness amongst HS grads is flatly stupid.

That FACT has nothing whatsoever to do with the associated truth that our kids are all underserved by the same underperforming system, regardless of race, culture, creed, or gender. It's just that the 3% number is so glaring, so inexcusable, so inexplicable, that it seals the argument before debate even begins.