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re: Disparate Impact Thinking Is Destroying Our Civilization
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:04 am to Jimbeaux
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:04 am to Jimbeaux
quote:Time and influence are requisite to educational expansion .... or indoctrination.
“guilty of grooming AND indoctrination” (2 different things) AND they are massively underperforming.
But these things are only tangentially related.
Schools are granted time and influence with our kids.
In exchange, we expect our public education system should at least approach our children's educational potential. But public schools are not meeting those expectations. Nowhere is that more evident than in the 3% OP statistic.
One might argue, as some here do, that time and influence of schools is overrated compared with that of the extracurricular/home environment. But that argument falls flat if the same folks lament schools have the time and influence to indoctrinate kids. Obviously, if they have wherewithal to indoctrinate, they have capacity to educate. Yet they are are failing to educate. That is the point being made.
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:09 am to NC_Tigah
quote:This argument doesn’t carry water.
But that argument falls flat if the same folks lament schools have the time and influence to indoctrinate kids. Obviously, if they have wherewithal to indoctrinate, they have capacity to educate. Yet they are are failing to educate. That is the point being made.
You are implying that the time spent indoctrinating is separate from the time spent educating.
There is a finite supply of time.
Any time spent indoctrinating is time not spent educating, and vice versa.
If they have the wherewithal to indoctrinate, they have the capacity to educate, but if the time is spent indoctrinating, it isn’t spent educating.
Both can exist, and do exist, separately.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:18 am to NC_Tigah
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Yet they are are failing to educate.
Primarily because parents dont care, and public systems are rigid.
Youre not going to make this parent(s) care. The best you can hope for is to spark some interest in a few kids.
Half of the country doesnt value education. If you dont fix "home" youre wasting money on schools.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:26 am to Scruffy
quote:Just the opposite. I am stating both, either individually or combined, are products of time and influence.
You are implying that the time spent indoctrinating is separate from the time spent educating.
quote:That's a peripheral correlation to the discussion. The contention is public schools are underperforming. You are addressing some of the possible reasons for that underperformance. I'd agree with your posit, btw.
If they have the wherewithal to indoctrinate, they have the capacity to educate, but if the time is spent indoctrinating, it isn’t spent educating.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 6:40 am
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:32 am to NC_Tigah
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Schools are granted time and influence with our kids.
In exchange, we expect our public education system should at least approach our children's educational potential.
The groove I get from the left is our kids belong to the schools. At least thats according to the rhetoric I am hearing.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Excluding parental influence is key to indoctrination.
The groove I get from the left is our kids belong to the schools.
Including involved parents is key to maximizing education.
Unfortunately, poverty-ridden. single-parent households aren't often the most fertile educational environments. That is an unquestionable contributor to the 3% stat.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:00 am to NC_Tigah
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with many things, the most important element is buy-in.
The most important element is the parents. If the parents don’t care about education, you can throw money and programs at the kids all day but school for them will never be more than a day care.
Any population with very low parent engagement will also have terrible results in the classroom.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:05 am to NC_Tigah
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The contention is public schools are underperforming.
Schools ran on autopilot for decades and got complacent. They've gone overboard with our Demographic shifts in trying to adjust, and are making matters far worse for most students.
Since Public Schools are one of the sacred tenets of Progressivism, they've been infiltrated to the point that meaningful change has to occur at the board-level positions to keep them in check.
Conservatives once again need to occupy school boards.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:16 am to NC_Tigah
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The most consequential falsehood in American public policy today is the idea that any racial disparity in any institution is by definition the result of racial discrimination.
This is undoubtedly true even though no one seems to care when the disparate effect favors black cornerbacks and basketball players. But this is not what is destroying America. That is happening because we are no longer having enough children, nor are we raising them properly.
If you want to distill this to one cause it is that we have abandoned Christianity.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:20 am to kingbob
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1. Zero discipline. Schools refuse to punish or remove disruptive students because too many of them are African American. If you discipline too many students, they lose access to federal funds. This needs to stop. It is impossible to teach or learn in an environment where students can disrupt class without recourse.
Under obama the dept of education issued the infamous "dear colleague" letter. It made it very clear if a person of race was disciplined at a higher rate than the percentage of the population in the school, that school would lose funding. It became open warfare for any hoodlum to run the school. There are horror stories of the change in discipline in schools. It also gave administrators and teachers who were racist an excuse to look the other way.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:32 am to the808bass
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This is the fruit of critical race theory.
CRT was created out of nothing solely to create an excuse for what the OP noted and the whole country knows is true. It was becoming so obvious that excuses needed to be created to deflect blame from the black community…thus CRT is born.
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