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re: Director of National Counterterrorism resigns due to Iran conflict

Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:09 am to
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4723 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:09 am to
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Shortly after the war began, former George W. Bush speechwriter Marc Thiessen wrote perhaps the strongest case for the “47 years” argument:

For 47 years, the Iranian regime has been waging war against the United States. That war began in 1979, when Iran seized the U.S. embassy in Tehran, taking more than 50 Americans hostage for 444 days. The war continued as Iran orchestrated the 1983 bombings of the U.S. embassy and Marine barracks in Beirut that killed 258 Americans. It continued in 1998, when Iran provided “direct assistance” to al-Qaeda for the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, training its “operatives about how to blow up buildings,” according to a ruling by the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

After the 9/11 attacks, Iran provided sanctuary to senior leaders of al-Qaeda fleeing U.S. forces in Afghanistan, and allowed the group to use Iranian territory as a pipeline to move money, facilitators, and operatives from across the Middle East. (It still harbors Saif al-Adel, successor to Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri as leader of al-Qaeda, in Tehran.) Iran also provided training and bomb-making equipment to insurgents in Iraq, including “explosively formed penetrators” that killed and maimed thousands of American troops…The Iranian regime has also attempted terrorist attacks on U.S. soil, including a 2011 plot to set off a bomb in Cafe Milano in Washington to kill the Saudi ambassador, a plot to kill former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and other senior U.S. officials, and a plot to assassinate Trump himself.

(It should be noted that Thiessen, as part of his case that Iran has been waging war against the U.S. for 47 years, also included Iran’s backing of the Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas attacks on Israel, which killed approximately 1,200 people. That number included 46 Americans, but Oct. 7 was not an attack targeting the U.S., or U.S. military forces, or U.S. officials.)

Is this the case for starting a war in 2026? Many of the offenses listed are decades old. Jimmy Carter was president when the hostages were taken, and Ronald Reagan was president when they were released. It was up to Reagan, as president and commander in chief, to decide what retaliation was necessary. The same was true of the Marine barracks bombing, which also happened during Reagan’s first term.

Bill Clinton was president when the embassies were bombed. George W. Bush was president during Sept. 11 and the insurgency following the American invasion of Iraq. Barack Obama was president when the Cafe Milano and Mike Pompeo plots were uncovered, and Joe Biden was president for the rest. And for any plots involving al Qaeda, the U.S. has been at war against the terrorist organization for 25 years.

What to make of a case for war against Iran that includes events so far in the past, incidents which presidents of both parties considered and did or did not retaliate for, according to their best judgment? Presidents Reagan and Bush and Clinton and Bush and Obama and Trump I and Biden did not see fit to go to war with Iran based on that record. And now it is a sufficient reason for war?

It should not be a surprise that many people are not fully persuaded by the rationale Trump has given. So when they are asked whether Trump has “clearly explained” the reason for going to war, they say no, he hasn’t. In reality, it might be that the president has clearly explained the reasons, and many people just aren’t convinced.


1979.


Some groups think it Iran being a threat in that checkpoint is more valuable than US intrests. And it aint da Joos...
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1547 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:09 am to
Israel did not tell us to.

Israel told us they were going to attack Iran, while we had our military assets and bases nearby, and we had to attack Iran before they attacked us in retaliation to Israel's bombings.

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Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23815 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:10 am to
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Unraveling


Nah... this is a good thing.
It strengthens team Trump.
I only hope more of em leave so they can be replaced with folks who support Trump's efforts and are effective.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
17614 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:11 am to
Ouch.

JD Vance feels the same way. He just won’t say it publicly.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55757 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:11 am to
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Nobody with any info regarding the available intelligence believes that we were under an imminent threat. The halfhearted congressional briefings were not convincing in the least…


Do you believe the showdown between the West and Islam was inevitable?
Do you believe the West and Islam can coexist?

Make a choice from the above questions and then expound.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167564 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:12 am to
Bye.

New talking points for the democrats and Tucker/Massie.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15784 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:12 am to
Who Dis?
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2977 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:13 am to
Dude claimed to be libertarian for 7 years from. 2012 to 2019. Then he was a democrat for several years. Then he claimed to be a maga Trump supporter. BS just another democrat plant born and raised in Oregon.....goodbye.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:13 am to
Oh shite. That is a legit dude. Former Delta.

ETA: not Delta. CIA Paramilitary Officer:
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 9:15 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65870 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:14 am to
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Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation


Wow. Glad to see him go if he's this stupid.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:15 am to
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Glad to see him go if he's this stupid.

You clearly do not know who this guy is
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
52513 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:16 am to
Without reading this thread, has anyone called this former Green Beret a traitor or a foreign op or a cuck yet?
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
8778 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:16 am to
Love it. Absolutely freaking love it.

Trump is draining the swamp yet again. You DC uniparty losers are fricked.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7691 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:16 am to
Joe Kent is spot on and history will prove him correct.

That isn't some wild prediction. Its actually just common sense.

It's shocking how many people actually believe something positive is going to happen in the fricking middle east.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55757 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:16 am to
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Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation


Wow. Glad to see him go if he's this stupid.


In the spirit of Slick Willie, depends on how you define "imminent."
Posted by RAB
Member since Aug 2019
1716 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:17 am to
Resigns via open letter posted to Twitter. Pardon me for dismissing everything he says.
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
8778 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:17 am to
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I only hope more of em leave so they can be replaced with folks who support Trump's efforts and are effective.


Yep. We need loyalty to Trump, not these uniparty swamp rat losers.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:17 am to
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Love it. Absolutely freaking love it.

Trump is draining the swamp yet again. You DC uniparty losers are fricked.


Here is a thread on TD celebrating his confirmation.

LINK
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68465 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:18 am to
If you're Tulsi, do you:
(1) Resign now as opposing regime change conflicts was your entire calling card?
(2) Ride out your high-profile job, take notes for three more years, and write a great book later?
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
8778 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:18 am to
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Resigns via open letter posted to Twitter. Pardon me for dismissing everything he says.


Yep. He wasn’t man enough to say it to Trumps face so he pussied out and ran to social media. Who does tha?! What a loser
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