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Did the SS sniper need approval to take the shot
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:21 pm
SS probably needs approval for every action they take, that’s what DEI hiring will do for you.
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:22 pm to da prophet
honestly doubt it. I think it was just complacency and communication failures.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:24 pm to da prophet
There is no legitimate or reasonable excuse if the actions of everyone involved were above board.
These actions were allowed deliberately.
These actions were allowed deliberately.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:25 pm to da prophet
It wasn’t a SS sniper on the counter sniper team. It was contracted out probably to the local LEO.
From what I understand approval is needed until bullets start flying. Once the shots are fired it’s game on.
So, the guy probably didn’t need approval since the shots were fired.
My question is; they had the sniper in site but why didn’t he shoot? And where was the split second decision to take him out before he fired?
From what I understand approval is needed until bullets start flying. Once the shots are fired it’s game on.
So, the guy probably didn’t need approval since the shots were fired.
My question is; they had the sniper in site but why didn’t he shoot? And where was the split second decision to take him out before he fired?
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:26 pm to da prophet
Your comment reminds me of that cop that had the Uvalde School killer in his scope and passed up the shot. The shooter had a gun headed towards the school and passed up the shot waiting for confirmation. Then when he looked back he was inside the school.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:26 pm to da prophet
I can’t imagine that this would be the case. That would make them next to useless.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:27 pm to da prophet
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Did the SS sniper need approval to take the shot
I very much doubt it.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:28 pm to da prophet
There has to be at least a perceived threat
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:29 pm to Errerrerrwere
The counter snipers on the roof did not kill him. It was a Sniper 488 yards away. The 2 of the roof F'd up
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:30 pm to Errerrerrwere
quote:
My question is; they had the sniper in site but why didn’t he shoot? And where was the split second decision to take him out before he fired?
This.
Either there was approval required (organizational issue). or a lack of action (individual issue). period.
now we can argue about the lack of action…on purpose or he froze. Dan Bongino said that they never had to get approval in SS in his experience.
i personally think this is a PREplanning issue. that roof top was an obvious location for a threat. thus, an organization issue.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:31 pm to da prophet
If Jonathan Willis really was the counter sniper and what he said on 4chan is real then yes, SS wouldnt authorize for the 3 mins he had the perp in his optic. Couldve avoided all of it. If a guy is on a roof with a rifle i think thats enough. Send a freedom seed downrange and we figure out later why he had a rifle aimed at a presidential candidate
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:33 pm to rattlebucket
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If Jonathan Willis really was the counter sniper and what he said on 4chan is real then yes, SS wouldnt authorize for the 3 mins he had the perp in his optic. Couldve avoided all of it. If a guy is on a roof with a rifle i think thats enough. Send a freedom seed downrange and we figure out later why he had a rifle aimed at a presidential candidate
Why wouldn’t they have removed Trump from the stage?
Clearly they knew in enough time to take action and remove him from the stage.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:34 pm to East Coast Band
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There has to be at least a perceived threat
pointing a gun at a Presidential Candidate not “perceived” enough?
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:35 pm to da prophet
They have a no first shot policy apparently, which is fricking idiotic
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:36 pm to BCreed1
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It was a Sniper 488 yards away.
I haven't seen a diagram that shows their location, can you provide it?
Edit, this is the only location I've seen in this diagram
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:36 pm to da prophet
Incompetent security.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:38 pm to ezride25
quote:
There is no legitimate or reasonable excuse if the actions of everyone involved were above board. These actions were allowed deliberately.
I’ll give you an easy answer - most people in this country are incompetent, and the government hires them in disproportionate numbers.
It may have been deliberate, but that requires more competency than I think they can muster.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:39 pm to BCreed1
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The counter snipers on the roof did not kill him. It was a Sniper 488 yards away. The 2 of the roof F'd up
No fricking way the kill shot came from 488 yards away in that quick of a timeline, unless it was the last one we heard.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:40 pm to G&P
This is such a massive collapse of any sense of competence that I will not rule out the possibility that this is intentional. There are a lot of powerful people in the US FedGov who would like Trump to be deceased.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:40 pm to Errerrerrwere
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My question is; they had the sniper in site but why didn’t he shoot? And where was the split second decision to take him out before he fired?
It was total incompetence by the SS. I do wonder if the two sharp shooters has a good visual on the shooter. The roof the shooter was on was pitched and it looks like the shooter was on the angle opposite of the sharpshooters. In that case the sharpshooters would only see any body part raised above the pitch.
Am I making sense?
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