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re: Did Robert Mueller make a huge mistake indicting foreign companies?

Posted on 5/11/18 at 5:23 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 5:23 pm to
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Manafort trial begins (on July 10)
Gotcha. I do see that some sort of revised notice was issued today in Concord, but it is not yet available for review.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 5:36 pm to
shocking isn't it, given how expertly he handled the anthrax case and any and all shite regarding Whitey Bulger


Oh wait...
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34201 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 5:38 pm to
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July 10th is. Nobody wants to talk about that trial though.

I think someone missed the fact that the judge said there might not be a trial, until Mueller can show a letter giving him jurisdiction
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"I don't see what relation this indictment has with what the special counsel is authorized to investigate," Ellis told prosecutors.

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They also said they had additional authority that they could not disclose in the courtroom because it related to ongoing investigations and could affect national security.

But Ellis apparently wasn't buying it, reportedly characterizing the special counsel's office's argument as: "We said this was what the investigation was about, but we are not bound by it, and we were lying."

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Ellis ordered Mueller's team on Friday to turn over an unredacted copy of Rosenstein's memo to the court under seal within two weeks.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 8:28 pm to
Mueller and his team of partisan democrats right now to President Trump is nothing more than an annoying side show that's currently spinning its wheels in the mud but yet still pose no credible threat.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 9:05 pm to
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Yes it was a huge mistake.

In the pursuit of cheap participation trophies for his wall, he ignorantly grabbed “easy low hanging” fruit.

Now he’s trapped.
Option 1) Comply with discovery rules, and display the total BS weakness of your hand.
Option 2) Drop the case and display your incompetence.


Considering the SC has been playing fast and loose behind the scene with the law, can the judge deny Mule ears a dismissal and force him to produce the discovery docs?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32092 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 9:07 pm to
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Considering the SC has been playing fast and loose behind the scene with the law, can the judge deny Mule ears a dismissal and force him to produce the discovery docs?


Great question, if not so honest Bob does drops the case, it proves that this was nothing more than a strategy play, but the public will never see it in the news

If this happens, Trump has to step in and use his executive powers
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 9:08 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476328 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 9:36 pm to
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can the judge deny Mule ears a dismissal and force him to produce the discovery docs?

no

but it may lead to arguments that he has to dismiss against other defendants. that would be an uphill battle but i'm sure that's in the plans
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 9:38 pm to
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If this happens, Trump has to step in and use his executive powers


There is no doubt in my mind, the POTUS is acutely aware of his executive powers to lay hands on any document he so desires.

Hell, I can't keep up with a standard game of chess, much less the intergalatic chess he participates in.

He be sandbagging this game for a higher purpose of MAGA.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32092 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 9:42 pm to
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He be sandbagging this game for a higher purpose of MAGA


I hope

Just getting impatient...
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:04 pm to
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hell, once they get delivered the evidence, in Russia, they can share everything with Putin and his cronies. i don't see a legal mechanism that will allow the defendant due process that won't also permit the information being transmitted to Russia. once it's there, we can't do anything about it


Even money on a WikiLeaks dump of all the "evidence" found in discovery....?

Hell, they could even drop made up stuff to even further embarrass Mueller. He really did not think this one through.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:18 pm to
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I hope

Just getting impatient...



I have lots of angst, because of the seriousness of what is happening.
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5617 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 12:09 am to
Mueller is crook. Hillary boy.
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